M4 Gets boring
 

Mean seriously,is m4 going to remain the dominant spar gun forever? There needs to be a bunch of new guns released around the same time and all have their own special type of stats that fit certain people. So there's basically a lot of guns that people can choose from to spar with..Most spars I see m4 vs m4 and now I'm just tired of it,make some changes era. Share your opinions on this.

One hundred percent agree. I don't agree to many things, but gun balancing (in my opinion) was one of Era's flaws that turned me away from it.

I like it that way. M4 vs M4 is a matter of skill so it's fair.

No,it doesn't matter,if you have skill you can beat guns that are stronger and that's how you get better..on PC they have a nice balanced system and you don't see everyone running around with m4. There's a variety of guns..people only use m4 because it's the best because it's good in both pk and spar .

Yes.
Perhaps make another gun with same stats as M4 but different template,it really gets tiresome to use M4 for everything,and once a good gun comes out they make it rare :\ thats so nerdy!

More gun variety,like theres melee variety,you have a great graphics team put them to work in guns too.

Whatever the case, I agree.

Thats funny, i said that exact thing as billy awhile ago and half the people who have commented here agreeing said my idea was stupid when i said it....

if people use same gun to spar it makes it fair cuz then no one can say that it was unfair and if all guns were equal it would be pointless since some people work hard to get good guns and therefore deserve a better gun than someone else

famas, aug, sten, tec, bar, pbp can dominate M4
But I still want moar guns. Yes

Give snk his dual uzi and we can talk again

Gun attatchments anyone?

I'm not sure if this is just a fake rumor but I heard there was a new gun coming with the freeze of M4 and the damage of BAR..Isnt it bit too early in game to have a gun that strong if thats true?

wow thats gonna be too overpowered
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I think it's just that, a rumor. Unless it's ultra rare.

Okay, that is obviously OP. It would have to be rare like the soiuzen. The souizen is 9dmg, no freeze at all, and perfect spread. Therefore souizen is also OP

Souizen is 8 damage ...

M4 is 8 damage too, it's 9 when upgraded same with souzien

Souzien got a freeze rate between 0.17 and 0.22 I think

Ik that i have a souizen...

M4 vs AP0
 

I've heard both sides but if I was going to buy one of these guns, which one would you recommend and why?

M4.
Don't hijack threads, by the way.

Lets face it, the developers are quite obviously not mathematicians. I'm not entirely sure if there's a rhyme or reason as to why some guns are superior and some aren't but i'm willing to guess its because the developers aren't mathematically inclined enough to balance all the weapons to work 'together'.

Oh! and on side note, M4 is fine just the way it is!

Pay to Win mentality of iEra.

This.

It's only pay2win if you're willing to buy things you don't need.

Ok mr math genius go script a completely balanced system for us.

Souizen.

i agree witht the end bit but the rest is rubbish lol if everything was balanced it would be boring cuz now you can be working to get a new gun that means you do better but otherwise everyone will use cheap guns if they are equal to expensive ones
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And if so have it like in the Event house,it should be the golden M4, or like a Golden tommy, lol what ever it is have it gold lol and like 600 event wins or something

Maybe because they cost more? There's supposed to be superior things in games,that's one of the main things in the game,trying to earn really good stuff. If all the guns were the same but all had different stats that fit you.. I mean ALL the guns were like that,I'd quit because what's the point?

Sounds good. Here's my spin. Adding a gold attachment for common guns. The attachments turn the guns completely gold.

Gold: Uzi, Bar, Shipka, Pbp, Thompson, M4, KSG, AK47, etc. Yes, around 600 EC. Or per gun, so that stronger gun attachments are harder to obtain.

The gold forms has +1 dmg. Or, if the guns are already high in damage, the guns would receive a reduced freeze.

If the gun cost 600 ec i want it 5 dmg higher lower freeze and high fire rate 600 is a lot :/

I understand your concern, however, even these things should stay rare. I'm not saying this out of preference either. I suck at events, except the free for all battles. :)

Hey! No need to get nasty now, but I think both you and me realize that you guys have been at it for about a year. In the first 6 months there were major hiccups in how the guns performed and it was totally at random. A year and a half into this and it's getting there it's still not solid.

As for the math, all I can see in game is the trigonometry, nothing more. The m4 (pbp, shotgun, BAR) obvisouly makes good use of a sin wave with a straight line passing through it, at 'crucial' times it's hit or miss. I've noticed a lot lately that I can shoot someone and it won't hit at all.

Switch to the ak47.

No I'm looking for a gun with less freeze.. And not stationary. My point is they shouldn't auction every new gun.in the past 3 months we've only gotten like 2 shop guns..

Bottom line, what am I getting at? Eurocenter has nowhere near the financing or resources as big game companies like id software, epic games or activision to properly create a balanced game system. Am I dissatisfied? Absolutely not.. I think a great job has been done given the limitations.

so maths genius if your so clever could you create something better while also making other things for the game?

wow he is thinking hard lol :P