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Higbey 07-03-2012 09:15 PM

my ideal server
 
here is what id have it be if i were to control a server, or design one. the perfect, not pay2win, fun, server.

races: each race has its own special powers and stats, now say each race gets 25 points and the points are spread out, such as dwarves being good at digging and using hammers and axes, and goblins being good at daggers and fists, as well as the starting player looking like their race, and having a bunch of heads for each race purchasable in a room in each races starting area. of course you can use customs so your player could look like anything despite the races.

weapons:I think a balanced stat weapon system would be nice.
Say each weapon gets 10 stat points. Now something like a dagger would have low damage like 2, good speed like 4 and good dex like 4
A two handed hammer would have high damage like 8, with 1 speed and 1 dex,
Something like a sword would have 3 damage, 4 speed, 3 dex.
If you wanted you could make the points like on a 25 scale to make it more precise and more combinations.
You could add a range weapon, with damage, speed, dex, where dex is how fast you reload,
You could have throwing weapons, medium damage, medium speed, medium dex,
Archery weapons, low damage, medium speed, high dex
High power Magic, really high damage, low speed, low dex
Low power magic, high damage, medium speed, low dex.
you get to choose your weapon, you can only have one main weapon and one range or shield at a time, maybe you could have a shield and range and no main. of course certain races will be better with certain weapons. perhaps you can choose a enchantment/element, and have the element systems come into effect.

repeatable quests and jobs/minigames: each would require going to places on the map for the highest profit, as well at multiple uses,
the mines can be for mining, for travel, for fighting monsters, and for finding gems and such.
the ponds and rivers and lakes and seas can have underwater areas (zorbi race areas), they can be fished in, different areas having different fish, you can find treasures and shells underwater, and can explore aquatic ruins and fight monsters there.
you see how it can go, so all these areas in the gmap have multiple uses and jobs, meaning that players will go and explore and be more spread out to get stuff and have fun, multiple purposes allowing for places to be used for many things.

deaths: like classic you just get back up, maybe some races would get back up a bit quicker based on the dex/agility stat, and reset your power, while kills fill up your power bar, instead of having a streak system.

guilds: can participate in guild wars and maybe a tower thing, not too sure if id allow towers, but i know for sure there will be no special rewards for that.

spars: of course different spars, no real spar ranks. its for fun and you can make money winning (only for money reward is when in the main spar, to prevent boosting for money).

now here is were Stefan makes his money: guild pack. one way to reduce the amount of guilds is to make it cost real money, but you can still join any or be given a guild for free. maybe then there would be less not serious guilds.
vanity items and furniture could cost gralats, they don't affect game-play, there could be a market with all the shops with the stuff, instead of having them all taking spots on shelves, have the items in a menu to go through, with how it would look on your character on the side.

choose your death gani for gralats, would have no effect on respawn speed.
your gender is set at the start of character creation, as well as your character name that is shown on the profile, your nickname can be changed anytime, but to change your character name or gender would cost a HUGE amount of gralats, making it so you'd practically have to buy a bunch of gralat packs to change it, i don't know about you guys, but i tend to stay male for my whole life, i don't change genders, also with set hard to change account names players can be identified and held accountable for their actions.

no level up system, you are all equal, its your talent and skill and experience and strategy that you depend on. the fighting is perfectly customizable, balanced, and free. anyone can get the same race and weapon as you, and if you want your weapon to look different you can make a custom of it and have it uploaded like a custom shield or sword.

now this is just a basic view of it, i have of course a lot more and specifics and such set up, but that's the gameplay, now for the staff system.

staff system: first of all id have dual managers. a public relations manager, and a gameplay/staff manager.
the public relations manager: would be like Novo of Delteria, cool, calm, nice, professional, handles all the problems and complaints, does the emails stuff like gralat pack errors and stuff, handling staff-player conflict, doing the announcements and basically making sure everyone is happy and following the rules.
the gameplay/staff manager: he would be like Xor or Rufus, hardworking, no nonsense, basically dev admin, he would deal with the server stuff, he would be the guy getting the team inspired and working hard, fixing and helping and dealing with that stuff and making the game.

LATs: id have sorta minor lats, basic lats/scripters, taught just little scripting things, they can go and fine polish stuff, fix errors, fix glitched areas, do stuff it doesn't require a great lat to do, set up little cool things, that stuff.

GP/FAQ: lots of gp/faq from different timezones, not allowed to have pms from friends only on except for in events. id have them check forums like these and mingle with players like a normal player. get feedback that way. maybe set up so when staff use staffboots or stealth they turn into a bird or dragon or insect or something like that, and have scripted natural fauna like that going around, so players don't know if its just a npc creature or a scripted dragon soaring over them, or if its a staff member in disguise.would really add something to the game, especially policing it, you don't know whats a staff and whats a npc, players end up being intimidated and don't want to do something bad.

punishments: all rules and their tiers of punishment are in the info center room of each starting area for each race. id like staff to go more for warning and talking to players and trying to change them instead of resorting to bans, Stefan should agree, you cant buy stuff if your banned!

so yea, that's my basic ideal server, if you have a server feel free to borrow anything from here, i encourage you.
rep, reply, like, share, whatever you want to do.

Talon 07-03-2012 09:20 PM

Hmm.

Rexx 07-03-2012 09:20 PM

a few interesting concepts.

Peter5498 07-03-2012 09:21 PM

Creative

The Doctor 07-03-2012 09:24 PM

Good ideas! We could use another iServer like this... Maybe Stroseria or Delteria can take a look...

Peter5498 07-03-2012 09:25 PM

I really like the idea of different managers for different things; that way, the only manager wouldn't be so busy.

Higbey 07-03-2012 09:28 PM

its also because a nice manager is good for player relations, but sometimes you need a stricter more productive manager to keep the devs going smooth.

Talon 07-03-2012 09:30 PM

I liked your weapons idea.

Higbey 07-03-2012 09:34 PM

as you can see, i added stuff like guild pack and other stuff so this actually has more opportunities to make money for Stefan and Unixmad than iclassic. im assuming this would be a pretty good server so their would be more players on it, so more money, i dont know, ill have to base how many players like it off the reps i receive and positive comments.

basically im just hoping i can get people discussing this and get something done, get it getting set up, really no idea what to do, im really interested in what players think about it.

MattKan 07-03-2012 09:40 PM

I'm in the car so I sort of skimmed, but you have some good ideas. If you have a few minutes I'd like to invite you to the Stroserian Skype chat so we can talk a little more :) I'll IM you later

Rufus 07-03-2012 09:49 PM

http://www.futurevisions.org/ldr_mgr.htm

Higbey 07-03-2012 10:42 PM

Quote:

Posted by Rufus (Post 153909)

im more into the leader stuff, but i wouldnt deal well with pr stuff and would be marked "doesnt play well with others".... and with my past...yea.

so whats everyone think?

NCJohn 07-04-2012 12:11 AM

I like the guild pack idea :o, it would limit the amount of random guilds

The Doctor 07-04-2012 12:16 AM

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Posted by NCJohn (Post 154001)
I like the guild pack idea :o, it would limit the amount of random guilds

What's so bad about random guilds? I like being in dcxii (which is a random guild) and chat there. I also like being on my Graalians tag.

Higbey 07-04-2012 01:14 AM

Quote:

Posted by Shawn (Post 154009)
What's so bad about random guilds? I like being in dcxii (which is a random guild) and chat there. I also like being on my Graalians tag.

well its meaning that people would think about making a guild if it cost more, people would be more into joining a existing guild instead of everyone having a guild.

also i would do other stuff with guilds, but i think Stefan has to be involved with stuff like that, like increasing the amount of members and more rights and such..

BboyEatsbacon 07-04-2012 01:39 AM

If you want to make something like this, I'd suggest using a different platform than Graal to make it.

MattKan 07-04-2012 02:27 AM

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Posted by BboyEatsbacon (Post 154063)
If you want to make something like this, I'd suggest using a different platform than Graal to make it.

Why?

Seeker99 07-04-2012 02:35 AM

So Unixmad's pockets don't get too heavy

Higbey 07-04-2012 03:01 AM

me make this? no way. you all know i couldnt do my dream justice, Stefan and me wouldnt get along, im not the type that would be good at running a server, no one would trust a guy like me, no one good would work on it if i was in charge, no, it would need to be someone people like, someone experienced, someone with a start. i cant do it, i dont have the money for a server, nor would i be foolish enough to waste my money on it thinking i would be able to get all the stuff i mentioned set up and done without great staff with experience.

Seeker99 07-04-2012 04:26 AM

I would make levels for it.

Higbey 07-04-2012 07:46 AM

Well thanks, but I'm more looking toward these systems being used in a already in developement server, starting from scratch on my own would be destined to fail.

Seeker99 07-04-2012 03:00 PM

I know a few scripters, but it's so much work that you should just make for own game. I'm learning Python right now, it's an awesome coding language.

MementoJoker 07-04-2012 03:57 PM

I really like the idea, Higbey. +REP.

Higbey 07-04-2012 05:51 PM

thank you. if a server was like this im pretty sure it would beat iera and iclassic,

Psycher! 07-04-2012 06:51 PM

Great ideas, it would be an awesome server if it would come to be. +Rep for you!

Higbey 07-04-2012 07:38 PM

thank you. i hope other servers use some of these ideas too...

topsamman 07-05-2012 12:57 AM

Wow this would be such a good sever, I wish YOU would do it :)
+REP
Quote:

Posted by Higbey (Post 154112)
no one would trust a guy like me, no one good would work on it if i was in charge, no, it would need to be someone people like, someone experienced

I think that there is people out there that are in fact talented enough to work with you and on a good sever like this, as long as YOU kept them on a straight path

Emera 07-05-2012 01:05 AM

Quote:

Posted by Higbey
me make this? no way. you all know i couldnt do my dream justice, Stefan and me wouldnt get along, im not the type that would be good at running a server, no one would trust a guy like me, no one good would work on it if i was in charge, no, it would need to be someone people like, someone experienced, someone with a start. i cant do it, i dont have the money for a server, nor would i be foolish enough to waste my money on it thinking i would be able to get all the stuff i mentioned set up and done without great staff with experience.

Do some research into project management. It's helped me a lot, so it might help you. A simple Google search will give you what you need.

topsamman 07-05-2012 01:09 AM

Quote:

Posted by Emera (Post 154707)
Do some research into project management. It's helped me a lot, so it might help you. A simple Google search will give you what you need.

See I really think you should get on this great idea you have

Emera 07-05-2012 01:09 AM

Quote:

Posted by topsamman (Post 154709)
See I really think you should get on this great idea you have

It's not my idea, it's Higbey's :3

topsamman 07-05-2012 01:14 AM

Haha yer i know that post kinda failed I was wasn't ment to quote ur post :P

Higbey 07-05-2012 03:34 AM

im just saying with my past..... and my behaviour, i dont believe it would be probable.

DRAN 07-05-2012 04:36 PM

I'm pretty sure there will be talented people out there who would work with you to make this happen. You said your past may cause issues, but it's the PAST, not the present. You've shown you've reformed, and this is such a good idea, that it would be a shame if some of the ideas are adopted. I really liked the races and weapon ideas.

Higbey 07-05-2012 04:44 PM

thank you dran. i wish that was the mindset.

topsamman 07-06-2012 12:04 AM

Come on Higbey you should at least do some research to see if there are people willing to work for you. I know there are talented people who would die to work on a sever like this :D

Katniss 07-06-2012 05:43 AM

Quote:

Posted by Higbey (Post 153870)
such as dwarves being good at digging and using hammers and axes,

Quote:

Posted by Higbey (Post 153870)
such as dwarves being good at digging

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Posted by Higbey (Post 153870)
dwarves being good at digging

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Posted by Higbey (Post 153870)
dwarves being good at digging



My work here is done.

Higbey 07-06-2012 05:49 AM

Every race would have statistical advantages like Zorbi and water.

I'm a zorbi and I'm swimming around, swimmy swimmy zorbi!

Katniss 07-06-2012 06:00 AM

Quote:

Posted by Higbey (Post 155377)
Every race would have statistical advantages like Zorbi and water.

I'm a zorbi and I'm swimming around, swimmy swimmy zorbi!

There should be a race called Higbey and they would be good getting banned and using logic.

Higbey 07-06-2012 06:01 AM

I'm a Higbey and I'm banned from this game! Bannedy bannedy Higbey!

Higbey 07-06-2012 07:03 AM

Anyway, I really wish the npc animals and the staff turning into the animals without the staff tag or being clickable thing was added to classic. Would cut down rule breaking if you didn't know if that bug was a npc or a staff member through the bugs view.

MrSimons 07-06-2012 08:11 AM

I really think you should look into starting something like this, and you could just spark up the idea and have someone else manage it if you don't want to run it.

Era News 07-06-2012 08:43 AM

Quote:

Posted by Katniss

There should be a race called Higbey and they would be good getting banned and using logic.

Yeah an one could be Kat and you have to annoy the hell out of as much people as you can! YAY

topsamman 07-06-2012 09:56 AM

The could be a demon race also an angels race that would be cool to see

Johnaudi 07-06-2012 10:17 AM

Quote:

Posted by Higbey (Post 153870)
here is what id have it be if i were to control a server, or design one. the perfect, not pay2win, fun, server.

races: each race has its own special powers and stats, now say each race gets 25 points and the points are spread out, such as dwarves being good at digging and using hammers and axes, and goblins being good at daggers and fists, as well as the starting player looking like their race, and having a bunch of heads for each race purchasable in a room in each races starting area. of course you can use customs so your player could look like anything despite the races.

weapons:I think a balanced stat weapon system would be nice.
Say each weapon gets 10 stat points. Now something like a dagger would have low damage like 2, good speed like 4 and good dex like 4
A two handed hammer would have high damage like 8, with 1 speed and 1 dex,
Something like a sword would have 3 damage, 4 speed, 3 dex.
If you wanted you could make the points like on a 25 scale to make it more precise and more combinations.
You could add a range weapon, with damage, speed, dex, where dex is how fast you reload,
You could have throwing weapons, medium damage, medium speed, medium dex,
Archery weapons, low damage, medium speed, high dex
High power Magic, really high damage, low speed, low dex
Low power magic, high damage, medium speed, low dex.
you get to choose your weapon, you can only have one main weapon and one range or shield at a time, maybe you could have a shield and range and no main. of course certain races will be better with certain weapons. perhaps you can choose a enchantment/element, and have the element systems come into effect.

repeatable quests and jobs/minigames: each would require going to places on the map for the highest profit, as well at multiple uses,
the mines can be for mining, for travel, for fighting monsters, and for finding gems and such.
the ponds and rivers and lakes and seas can have underwater areas (zorbi race areas), they can be fished in, different areas having different fish, you can find treasures and shells underwater, and can explore aquatic ruins and fight monsters there.
you see how it can go, so all these areas in the gmap have multiple uses and jobs, meaning that players will go and explore and be more spread out to get stuff and have fun, multiple purposes allowing for places to be used for many things.

deaths: like classic you just get back up, maybe some races would get back up a bit quicker based on the dex/agility stat, and reset your power, while kills fill up your power bar, instead of having a streak system.

guilds: can participate in guild wars and maybe a tower thing, not too sure if id allow towers, but i know for sure there will be no special rewards for that.

spars: of course different spars, no real spar ranks. its for fun and you can make money winning (only for money reward is when in the main spar, to prevent boosting for money).

now here is were Stefan makes his money: guild pack. one way to reduce the amount of guilds is to make it cost real money, but you can still join any or be given a guild for free. maybe then there would be less not serious guilds.
vanity items and furniture could cost gralats, they don't affect game-play, there could be a market with all the shops with the stuff, instead of having them all taking spots on shelves, have the items in a menu to go through, with how it would look on your character on the side.

choose your death gani for gralats, would have no effect on respawn speed.
your gender is set at the start of character creation, as well as your character name that is shown on the profile, your nickname can be changed anytime, but to change your character name or gender would cost a HUGE amount of gralats, making it so you'd practically have to buy a bunch of gralat packs to change it, i don't know about you guys, but i tend to stay male for my whole life, i don't change genders, also with set hard to change account names players can be identified and held accountable for their actions.

no level up system, you are all equal, its your talent and skill and experience and strategy that you depend on. the fighting is perfectly customizable, balanced, and free. anyone can get the same race and weapon as you, and if you want your weapon to look different you can make a custom of it and have it uploaded like a custom shield or sword.

now this is just a basic view of it, i have of course a lot more and specifics and such set up, but that's the gameplay, now for the staff system.

staff system: first of all id have dual managers. a public relations manager, and a gameplay/staff manager.
the public relations manager: would be like Novo of Delteria, cool, calm, nice, professional, handles all the problems and complaints, does the emails stuff like gralat pack errors and stuff, handling staff-player conflict, doing the announcements and basically making sure everyone is happy and following the rules.
the gameplay/staff manager: he would be like Xor or Rufus, hardworking, no nonsense, basically dev admin, he would deal with the server stuff, he would be the guy getting the team inspired and working hard, fixing and helping and dealing with that stuff and making the game.

LATs: id have sorta minor lats, basic lats/scripters, taught just little scripting things, they can go and fine polish stuff, fix errors, fix glitched areas, do stuff it doesn't require a great lat to do, set up little cool things, that stuff.

GP/FAQ: lots of gp/faq from different timezones, not allowed to have pms from friends only on except for in events. id have them check forums like these and mingle with players like a normal player. get feedback that way. maybe set up so when staff use staffboots or stealth they turn into a bird or dragon or insect or something like that, and have scripted natural fauna like that going around, so players don't know if its just a npc creature or a scripted dragon soaring over them, or if its a staff member in disguise.would really add something to the game, especially policing it, you don't know whats a staff and whats a npc, players end up being intimidated and don't want to do something bad.

punishments: all rules and their tiers of punishment are in the info center room of each starting area for each race. id like staff to go more for warning and talking to players and trying to change them instead of resorting to bans, Stefan should agree, you cant buy stuff if your banned!

so yea, that's my basic ideal server, if you have a server feel free to borrow anything from here, i encourage you.
rep, reply, like, share, whatever you want to do.

Awesome idea, in my server I almost did half of those, may I borrow and script the others? I think it could be similar but sadly I'm not a good scripter to make a fully functional GUI as iServer...
Anyways thanks!

MrSimons 07-06-2012 05:08 PM

You don't quote him....

Higbey 07-06-2012 05:40 PM

Quote:

Posted by Johnaudi

Awesome idea, in my server I almost did half of those, may I borrow and script the others? I think it could be similar but sadly I'm not a good scripter to make a fully functional GUI as iServer...
Anyways thanks!

Sure, I encourage all servers to add stuff like this.

topsamman 07-10-2012 12:31 AM

Still think it would be better if it was your sever


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