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I've seen it so many times now.
"we aren't allowed." "i cant do that" "(upper staff member) wont let us" i hate seeing this, you can do this stuff, you can, you can tell your upper staff members your opinion, you can go against them, you can do the right thing. its no excuse that someone "above" you wont "allow" you. i think some of you people need to realize that sometimes following orders isn't the right thing to do. you have your opinion, you have the power, you need to realize you can give a bigger push than you think. you can put your foot down, even to someone like Stefan. if they fire you for it, they lose out on a good staff member, and then they are in the wrong, and you can let everyone know it. every time you say that you aren't allowed to or are told not to do something, you are simply saying that you don't want to do it. I'm tired of people acting like they are powerless. you can do a lot more than you think if you force it. stop being cowards. a superior that fires someone for showing their opinion and doing what is right is someone not fit to be a superior. don't say its not how real life works, I've argued with my boss into letting a hawk "escape" because its enclosure was so small and it wasn't having a life worth living, when he denied i went out there and let that hawk free. i went back in and told them, and they came out and said that i did the right thing, and that i obviously care enough about the animals well fare, and that as long as i didn't release any more animals he wouldn't take any action. that hawk now has a better life. i still have my job. i could have just not spoken up, i could have not released it. i could have lied and said it escaped one day. but i didn't. you guys don't seem to understand what you can get away with. if its what players need, what players want, what the right thing to do is, and its perfectly understandable and good, then you do it. i understand its not worth getting in trouble for in all the occasions, but you aren't powerless. take it from a player. take it from a person who has been in positions before. do whats right. not what one overly controlling person in charge wants. Dare to do whats right. don't just be a opinion-less minion. who is with me?! p.s. man i missed writing these. |
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GraalEra Staff [email protected] Jul 1 (5 days ago) to me Hello, You're correct, I'm a PRA, but the managers have a higher say in the situation. I had banned ****** for account theft and illegally merging his friend's accounts into his, as well as tricking a PR to transfer accounts that he does not own to his account. He had also been resetted. Unfortunately, the rules changed and I was asked to no longer deal with account thefts etc. So he was unbanned and restored. I understand the frustration, it is what it is. Regards, ***** (Player Relations Admin) Edit: I don't like posting emails but this is for your own good |
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Agreed, just don't make a statement against your boss publicly like on a forum site for the game when it could just be done privately. A lesson I learned with my short position.
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Disagree, this is really dumb, running a staff team where everyone just made whatever decision they determined was best using their own moral compass would be a huge mess for so many obvious reasons.
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im not saying do what you want and just dont care about orders, im saying just dont act like they are concrete and know that when its really whats right you do it, |
Higbey is the most liberal person I've seen on these forums.
*clap* ... *clap* ... *clap* - Very interesting thread, I'll put in my 2 cents whenever I feel appropriate. |
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Where's the "I don't really care" option?
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If you are being told as a staff member to do something that is absolutely against everything you stand for, then sure, its probably time to fight it or quit. This doesn't mean that every time you have a slight disagreement over the way something is done you should just say screw it and do what you want. That would be a huge, huge mess. |
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That's what I mean. Of course don't just do what you want all the time, but say your opinion and if you are really really against it like you said, fight against it even if there's a chance you'll be fired. |
Agree. A PR came to my house because I needed help and all he said was "I don't have the rights" and warped away.
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Theres a difference between sharing our opinions and physically being able to do something. I'm all for sharing my opinion but there are certain things that I am physically not able to do or allowed to do (i.e. Watching/ helping with trades, giving out items, ect.)
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Now if you get fired for simply sharing an opinion then yeah there is something wrong there, but I dont think that is present on the iPhone servers nor have I ever heard anything like that or witnessed it. Obviously if the person sharing their opinion was rude,vulgar, or plain immature then that would be a different matter. |
Hmm, I don't understand this thread at all... Give an example of what you mean.
You're making it sound like there are awful things happening behind the scenes that we should cause anarchy over. If I have an opinion, I say it. I don't think any of the staff feel oppressed. :P |
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I told you the other day that I should just replace the tileset on Classic with the original one and not care what upper management think. You said "but you know it would just be changed back" and I'd be removed for doing it. What exactly would I have achieved in letting that hawk go?
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Of course. Like in the hunger games.
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This thread makes me lol.
You're trying to relate things between your opinion, and a certain sort of business. The two are very different, and in my opinion, it sounds like you simply have issues with authority figures, or are quite underage? Simply doing something because you think it's right is why religion is so rampant these days. You claim to be more liberal but you act like this? The hierarchy is there to show that those who better understand the situations can correctly make sure they are dealt with properly by those who deal with them. It is not a democracy. Expressing your opinion and why you think it should be taken into consideration is great. Taking it upon yourself to enact it for your own reasons and opinion, is not. |
Since when do you have to work in he'll? What, is it like Disgaea?
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A GPs job is to enforce the rules. A Graphics admin makes graphics. A Levels admin makes levels, and so on and so forth.
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Now on to Higbey once again. My dad once told me that if you think you could do it better go borrow money from the bank and fken buy your own business; this applies here to, if you think you can do a better job, THEN GO DO IT. You whine and cry about every little thing staff do, but your reluctant to leave. Stefen and unimaxd made a great game, which your obviously addicted to since you care so much about it. Your not a demon, your just some Whiney kid who crys whenever he doesn't get his own way. FK OFF NO ONE NEEDS YOU HERE ANYWAY! Oh and just to sum up the statement; Regardless of what Era changes, you'll always find something to be a whiney bitch about. It's no wonder people don't actually like you. You whine and turn everything into some malicious attack or cries that the game is pay to win. It's so very sad Higbey |
I completely disagree. There's a hierarchy for a reason. It keeps staff teams and development plans from falling apart. Without organisation and structure, nobody knows what's going on and communication starts breaking down. For a staff team to be capable of producing quality content and moderating players effectively, there needs to be a pecking order so everybody has somebody to go to. Having your say and doing what you want are completely different things.
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For instance, if a higher up staff member tells a lower staff member to maybe, script an inventory system, then the lower staff would refuse and say he wants to make something else, that literally destroys a server. Everything blows up into chaos if this happens. This is also part of the world itself in real life. I disagree.
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i checked the poll results and most of the people that disagree have a staff position somewhere, which makes this poll kind of useless because the only people that agree are normal players that dont have any experience of what its like being an administrator. of course there are more people are agreeing, but if they would both have the same amount of votes, there would be more votes from administrators in the people that disagree.
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I agree and I have experience of being an administrator ..
Players who agree want to benefit from "some" of the changes that Higbey want to bring like new tile sets.Higbey doesn't want Lower level staff to be scared of bringing great change like a new tile set. Which he feels some staff are scared of doing. Like Emera said he completely disagrees. That's absolutely fine. But attacking people won't help IERA NEWS... |
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Also lower level staff aren't afraid to share opinions and what not. At iEra everyone is free to share their ideas and opinions; their is no opression. However, their are certain things that lower level staff members are physically not allowed to do without permission from the higher up staff members. That's how pretty much all servers, games, buisnesses, ect. work. |
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its hard to explain, im not saying just let the whole server go to ****, but im definitely not saying the way things are now are okay. |
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I think racism is bad, see its just stating whats already commonly agreed upon. Did you want to make a thread so people can agree with you? Needed an ego boost? |
graal is corrupt. haavard paid rashard $90 for a spot in demigod GST and now he is a staff member? he paying them too?
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idk i didnt read your giant post. im just here to vent my rage and i saw "higbey" and assumed it was a post about the corruption of stefan and graal.
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its what we all expect when we read your name. now peace out i think im finally done venting, maybe you should stop for a while too.
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Where do you guys find the time to write this walls of text?
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Staff members are to do what they're told. They can voice their opinions and suggest ideas, but it comes down to what they're told to do.
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I don't agree with this.
We are allowed to protest and share our opinions. The rules are in place for a reason. We shall not rebel, for there are other times and places in which we may share our opinions. |
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