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Thunderstorm 07-09-2012 11:52 AM

Purpose of Life?
 
It's a deep and meaningful question that people have been asking for centuries; what is the exact purpose of why we are here, in this place, in this body?

For some of us, it crosses our minds daily, for others this may be the first time they've wondered about this. So what are your thoughts and/or personal opinions on this mysterious topic.

Me? I personally believe the purpose of life is to show affection to the people we really care about, build on relationships and live life with no regrets and move on from our mistakes and enjoy life as a whole. I know for a fact that it is more than playing Graal all day...

Please Note: No answer is right or wrong here. It is somebody's personal input on the matter.

Ace 07-09-2012 02:05 PM

live it up

Engel 07-09-2012 02:22 PM

I find it hard to transfer my thoughts about this in words...

LavaClaw 07-09-2012 02:25 PM

42.

Ignatius 07-09-2012 02:44 PM

Forgetting about all the crappy stuff you've gone through and look forward to the cool stuff coming your way.

Sparkeh 07-09-2012 02:57 PM

To achieve greatness. To make the world better for the next generation. That sounds lame, but it makes sense.

Sungwonc01 07-09-2012 10:55 PM

Survive.

Talon 07-09-2012 11:28 PM

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Posted by *FaZ3
If any of you have had the experience of smoking marijuana you would know what the purpose of life is. Nuff said.

I don't even want to live on this - actually, no. Get the hell off this planet.

Kaeru 07-09-2012 11:36 PM

To find what makes you happy, then keep moving forward. :D

iHot 07-09-2012 11:42 PM

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Posted by *FaZ3 (Post 158506)
If any of you have had the experience of smoking marijuana you would know what the purpose of life is. Nuff said.

I doubt you've ever smoked marijuana. You aren't cool.

billy wild 07-09-2012 11:43 PM

i dont understand why i am here i feel like life has no point of living

iHot 07-09-2012 11:45 PM

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Posted by Thunderstorm (Post 158186)
blah.

You were fired, you mean nothing to us now. lol jk

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Posted by billy wild (Post 158526)
i dont understand why i am here i feel like life has no point of living

Your here to fix your grammer.

Koolaid 07-09-2012 11:52 PM

There isn't a purpose. But thats my opinion.

Jester Lapse 07-10-2012 12:15 AM


Talon 07-10-2012 12:16 AM

I don't think there is ever a way to determine the reason for human existence. I'll back this up by saying this: the reason I don't believe there is a known purpose for the human race in particular; if there was, then that would mean that our universe would have a set end in mind. If the end of the universe was present in its beginning, then we would be in the mere deterministic unfolding set of initial conditions, the end would also be known, which in turn means that the universe would be a pointless exercise.

If you're at your destination, why make the journey? If you know the answer, why ask the question? That is why future is, and must be, profoundly hidden to any and all entities, whether they be a supernatural deity or a mere human. Otherwise, life would have no meaning. Life doesn't need to have a purpose; it's just a journey for us to take to reach the destination, or if you will, the end.

HappyCat123 07-10-2012 12:37 AM

To read online forums.

Yephenpeace 07-10-2012 12:45 AM

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Posted by *FaZ3 (Post 158506)
If any of you have had the experience of smoking marijuana you would know what the purpose of life is. Nuff said.

I don't think people need substances to be happy.

Remorse 07-10-2012 12:52 AM

to gather all the dragonballs

Pimpsy G. 07-10-2012 12:56 AM

Well, why would there be a purpose to life? I'm talking about a rational, defined purpose. That's basically saying everything is pre-determined. Were all dead men/women walking and theoretically there is no scientific point to anything unless you believe in fate- whatever. Essentially, in my view, the entire universe begins and ends through your own eyes. This is everything, its your one shot to help advance human society in its quest to grow and dominate the universe.

But what is the point of the advancement of human kind? Well, conquering death is one thing, so is answering all of those great questions, but that's not really answering this question. Sooner or later we will all die no matter what tools we use. Someday all the questions will be answered. So there isn't really an answer to this question. Its just what we are given with. But as long as you have the want to live, you inherently want to help this cause to further advance society since you obviously care about something. So basically, being human (Following human wants and needs) and helping others in society is the point of life. Now, people that still don't see a defined purpose in life from what I said don't want to be human. As in, you wan't to be dead. Dead, dead. Universe is essentially gone dead. And that's not fun is it?

Tl;dr: Being human makes our perspective on the world inherently skewed with things like emotions, so the point of life is fulfilling these emotions that drive us to advance society.
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Posted by iHot (Post 158527)
Your here to fix your grammer.

*You're

Sungwonc01 07-10-2012 01:04 AM

Thank you Pimpsy. My new answer is to prolong the inevitable.

Pimpsy G. 07-10-2012 01:12 AM

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Posted by sungwonc01 (Post 158569)
Thank you Pimpsy. My new answer is to prolong the inevitable.

Thats not what I was saying. You want to have a purpose in life, because you're asking for one. That is because you are human and it isn't healthy to be moping around depressed. Since you're human, the purpose of life is to be human and all the things humanity comes with, because anything else is not wanting to be human, or wanting death.

Sungwonc01 07-10-2012 02:02 AM

I don't like the word purpose in this type of thing. It hints thatevrything is already pre destined for you. I think I would perfer it more spontaneous and random.

Pimpsy G. 07-10-2012 02:05 AM

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Posted by sungwonc01 (Post 158596)
I don't like the word purpose in this type of thing. It hints thatevrything is already pre destined for you. I think I would perfer it more spontaneous and random.

Yeah, I already said that in my original post. But if there isn't any purpose to life-- why don't you just commit suicide and get whats coming to you over with? Better yet, why are you on these forums? Most people give out the same response to these types of questions. Answer it yourself and then read what I just said again.

Sungwonc01 07-10-2012 02:15 AM

Because I have free will. I want to be on the forums and I don't want to commit suicide. There is no because life is random. One thing can change the other. If a baseball fell through my window right now I would have a variety of reactions.

Because I want to.

What I said may not make sense but I say it.

Because I want to.

Pimpsy G. 07-10-2012 02:27 AM

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Posted by sungwonc01 (Post 158605)
Because I have free will. I want to be on the forums and I don't want to commit suicide. There is no because life is random. One thing can change the other. If a baseball fell through my window right now I would have a variety of reactions.

Because I want to.

What I said may not make sense but I say it.

Because I want to.

I don't think you're getting exactly what I'm saying. You want to. That means you are motivated to do things in this universe. That means you have value in your existence as a human. Its not a defined purpose from some higher order that we need to follow, that's not really what I meant, its more like a motivation. My answer to this thread is that the motivation to succeed in life is the inherent want to be human and enjoy things that make you more human, like happiness and doing things that you, well, want to do.

Yephenpeace 07-10-2012 02:46 AM

Existence itself is illogical... So I think the purpose of life is different for everyone.

The "purpose" of life doesn't necessarily mean the grand answer to everything. To me, it means to find your purpose.

I personally believe that the purpose of life is to be happy. I also believe that life is more than the physical, and that it is something spiritual as well. To keep it as open-ended as possible, I'd just say that the purpose of life is to live.

Pimpsy G. 07-10-2012 03:16 AM

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Posted by Yephenpeace (Post 158614)
Existence itself is illogical... So I think the purpose of life is different for everyone.

The "purpose" of life doesn't necessarily mean the grand answer to everything. To me, it means to find your purpose.

I personally believe that the purpose of life is to be happy. I also believe that life is more than the physical, and that it is something spiritual as well. To keep it as open-ended as possible, I'd just say that the purpose of life is to live.

How is existence itself illogical? You and me are the result of a specific complex pattern of neurons firing in our brains. I don't get how that is illogical. Scientists have actually recreated (simple) images that people looked at in closed test chambers solely by reading their minds. In the coming decade it could be possible to make a video of peoples actual dreams. Consciousness is physical. I would like to believe in such spiritual things, (That would make the point of life alot more simple in such cases) but as long as there isn't any rational proof, I won't take a step into that direction because I will feel like I'm lying to myself just to feel happier.

Yephenpeace 07-10-2012 03:36 AM

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Posted by Pimpsy G. (Post 158626)
How is existence itself illogical? You and me are the result of a specific complex pattern of neurons firing in our brains. I don't get how that is illogical. Scientists have actually recreated images that people looked at in closed test chambers solely by reading their minds. Consciousness is physical. I would like to believe in such spiritual things, (That would make the point of life alot more simple in such cases) but as long as there isn't any rational proof, I won't take a step into that direction because I will feel like I'm lying to myself just to feel happier.

Existence is illogical. When I say existence, I mean absolutely everything. Not just us or our emotions.

Belief in Evolution: Existence is already established. Matter changed over time to produce life at it's current complex state. Something came from nothing.

Belief in God: The belief that God, who came from nothing, created everything. Something came from nothing.

No matter what kind of scientific or supernatural explanations you have. Nothing can explain where existence in general came from. It's generally illogical because of the chances or possibilities of existence occurring in something that doesn't even exist! It's hard to even word without sounding crazy. As for my belief in something spiritual, I do believe there is some sort of higher power. Life is far too complex for me to think it all happened by chance. You should believe what you want though, I'm not pushing my opinions, I'm just stating them. I ponder life a lot, and there's a lack of sense in the very fibre of everything.

Pimpsy G. 07-10-2012 03:44 AM

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Posted by Yephenpeace (Post 158636)
Existence is illogical. When I say existence, I mean absolutely everything. Not just us or our emotions.

Belief in Evolution: Existence is already established. Matter changed over time to produce life at it's current complex state. Something came from nothing.

Belief in God: The belief that God, who came from nothing, created everything. Something came from nothing.

No matter what kind of scientific or supernatural explanations you have. Nothing can explain where existence in general came from. It's generally illogical because of the chances or possibilities of existence occurring in something that doesn't even exist! It's hard to even word without sounding crazy. As for my belief in something spiritual, I do believe there is some sort of higher power. Life is far too complex for me to think it all happened by chance. You should believe what you want though, I'm not pushing my opinions, I'm just stating them. I ponder life a lot, and there's a lack of sense in the very fibre of everything.

Well, you're assuming that time is constant, and there was a time where there was nothing. That doesn't really make any sense, sense time itself is an actual manipulative thing. Generally its accepted that, since time itself is a phenomena, there was no time before the big bang. So, in that case, something didn't come from nothing. And when it comes to life being complex: Its actually not complex. The universe, as it expands and stars dim, goes from order to disorder. It may seem like we are a unit of order, but the waste we emit (dead bodies, poop, etc) far outweighs the materials and the population we produce. So our society is actually a form of increasing disorder, as is everything else in the universe. I'm not good at explaining that though, google, "Disorder and order in the universe" its rather complicated.

TL;DR: Philosophy is a bitch and messing with it doesn't get anyone anywhere.

DragonRider 07-10-2012 03:51 AM

To reproduce.

Talon 07-10-2012 04:02 AM

To put it simply, that's probably every human's responsibility and purpose.

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Posted by DragonRider (Post 158648)
To reproduce.


Rexx 07-10-2012 04:21 AM

There is no purpose. We are living things just like animals or plants.
You live for a while and then you die.
Any purpose you come up with is just a belief. Which there is nothing wrong with that.

I'm surprised no body has brought up a religious flame war yet.

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Posted by Talon (Post 158658)
To put it simply, that's probably every human's responsibility and purpose.

I disagree, the world is already overpopulated.

Yephenpeace 07-10-2012 04:22 AM

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Posted by Pimpsy G. (Post 158641)
Well, you're assuming that time is constant, and there was a time where there was nothing. That doesn't really make any sense, sense time itself is an actual manipulative thing. Generally its accepted that, since time itself is a phenomena, there was no time before the big bang. So, in that case, something didn't come from nothing. And when it comes to life being complex: Its actually not complex. The universe, as it expands and stars dim, goes from order to disorder. It may seem like we are a unit of order, but the waste we emit (dead bodies, poop, etc) far outweighs the materials and the population we produce. So our society is actually a form of increasing disorder, as is everything else in the universe. I'm not good at explaining that though, google, "Disorder and order in the universe" its rather complicated.

TL;DR: Philosophy is a bitch and messing with it doesn't get anyone anywhere.

Time hasn't always existed? Where did it come from then. That still didn't even nearly answer my question. I also don't consider the big bang theory to be a logical beginning of everything. What exactly blew up? That theory starts with existence already existing.

You also contradicted yourself:

- "And when it comes to life being complex: Its actually not complex. The universe, as it expands and stars dim, goes from order to disorder."

- "I'm not good at explaining that though, google, "Disorder and order in the universe" its rather complicated."

I'm not saying you or your views of life are wrong, I'm just saying that you didn't really answer what I said. You seem like a smart guy. However, If you put everything to the bare basics, existence doesn't make any sense. There's always the odds that it could have never happened, which is technically the only chance possible. (if you formulate it scientifically)

I'm not sure if we're going off topic, but this question can essentially lead to some weird conversations. :P

Talon 07-10-2012 04:26 AM

Many scientists theorize that there really wasn't anything that triggered the Big Bang, it just happened. It leads to the belief that there was never a moment where time never existed - when the Big Bang took place, time has always been there.

MrSimons 07-10-2012 04:53 AM

Well from a religious perspective it's to worship God/Gods. But I don't want a religious debate. My own theory on it is to achieve happiness and just grasp whatever you want.

Talon 07-10-2012 06:43 AM

Yeah, let's keep religion out of this. Never a good idea for forums.

spades of feare 07-10-2012 06:51 AM

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Posted by LavaClaw
42.


Jazz 07-10-2012 06:58 AM

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/20...an-d4m1z2o.png

MrSimons 07-10-2012 07:10 AM

Stop PUNishing us.

Madhog 07-10-2012 04:55 PM

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Posted by LavaClaw (Post 158214)
42.

You either get it or you don't :)

spades of feare 07-10-2012 04:59 PM

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Posted by Talon
To put it simply, that's probably every human's responsibility and purpose.

Some people shouldnt though
+1 darwinism

T-10a 07-10-2012 09:22 PM

There is no meaning. Just do whatever you feel is right :)

Sungwonc01 07-11-2012 12:13 AM

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Posted by T-10a (Post 159048)
There is no meaning. Just do whatever you feel is right :)


Fuzz 07-11-2012 01:36 AM

To have FUN :) YAY

Astram 07-11-2012 02:03 AM

yolo, just do whatever you want there is no purpose...

MattKan 07-11-2012 02:26 AM

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Posted by LavaClaw (Post 158214)
42.

You mean the Coldplay song? If so, hell yes!

Pimpsy G. 07-11-2012 02:32 AM

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Posted by Yephenpeace (Post 158684)
Time hasn't always existed? Where did it come from then. That still didn't even nearly answer my question. I also don't consider the big bang theory to be a logical beginning of everything. What exactly blew up? That theory starts with existence already existing.

You also contradicted yourself:

- "And when it comes to life being complex: Its actually not complex. The universe, as it expands and stars dim, goes from order to disorder."

- "I'm not good at explaining that though, google, "Disorder and order in the universe" its rather complicated."

I'm not saying you or your views of life are wrong, I'm just saying that you didn't really answer what I said. You seem like a smart guy. However, If you put everything to the bare basics, existence doesn't make any sense. There's always the odds that it could have never happened, which is technically the only chance possible. (if you formulate it scientifically)

I'm not sure if we're going off topic, but this question can essentially lead to some weird conversations. :P

I didn't contradict myself at all. I said that life itself is not complex, or ordered. It is a unit of disorder. The theory to explaining that, however, is rather complicated. You seemed to think the big bang was an explosion. That's hardly the case, its a rapid expansion of the universe that we are still seeing today. Also, You don't seem to know about singularities. They are a point that is infinitely small and of infinite mass. It is a fact that they exist in the center of black holes, we have found proof of them. A singularity is presumably what the center of the big bang was. Using this logic, space time itself had no presence. Which means time had no effect, or, this singularity didn't come from anywhere. Why does something HAVE to come from nothing? You seem to be pushing that. I guess its just the way the human brain is wired to think. It was always there because TIME itself had no effect at its initial point.

Talon 07-11-2012 02:35 AM

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Posted by MattKan (Post 159262)
You mean the Coldplay song? If so, hell yes!

No, 42 as in the answer to life, the universe, and everything. It's a reference to the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

123tepig 07-11-2012 04:02 AM

Bich please, I started thinking about the quez when I was 4.

Wafers 07-11-2012 05:22 AM

The meaning of life has changed over time (time is only a measurement of the passing of events, and not a true non-human created thing). 'Twas once to fulfill the wants and needs of your superiors. 'Twas once to love those around you. 'Twas once to be yourself in uniqueness. It was many things. They were all different according to your religion. Of course, each religion has its own, but I believe that there is one that we should all go by.

Love all, even through the fiery hate that may arise. Be kind, even if others are not kind to you. Be unique. Abide by rules, but break them if you feel that they are wrong. Stand up for what you believe in. Build a society based on acceptance for who and what people are. Help others through their darkest hour. Stay open minded before you make a judgement. Do what you feel you are called to do that may have a positive effect. Be of good service in the best way you can. Change the lives of others in an optimistic way, so that they may do the same. Do not criticize others for something they can not help. Do not criticize them for what they can help, but give them advise for the future. If it is not taken, then deal with that fact, and do not over work your emotions about it. Most of all, live a life that makes you and those around you better people, so that our world may one day reach the closest thing we can get to perfection.

Note: I changed my signature to what is above.


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