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NiTe 07-16-2012 11:46 PM

Guild Wars 2
 
What is Guild Wars 2?
Guild Wars 2 is a MMO in development by ArenaNet. Set in the fantasy world of Tyria, the game follows the re-emergence of Destiny's Edge, a disbanded guild dedicated to fighting the Elder Dragons, a Lovecraftian species that has seized control of Tyria in the time since the original Guild Wars. The game takes place in a persistent world with a story that progresses in instanced environments.
http://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/

Why is Guild Wars 2 different from other MMOS?

Guild Wars 2 claims to be unique in the genre by featuring a storyline that is responsive to player actions, something which is common in single player role-playing games but rarely (if ever) seen in multiplayer ones. A dynamic event system replaces traditional questing, utilising the ripple effect to allow players to approach quests in different ways as part of a persistent world. Also of note is the combat system, which aims to be more dynamic than its predecessor by promoting synergy between professions and using the environment as a weapon, as well as reducing the complexity of the Magic-style skill system of the original game. As a sequel to Guild Wars, Guild Wars 2 will feature the same lack of subscription fees that distinguished its predecessor from other commercially developed online games of the time, though a purchase is still required to install the game.

A Few Gameplay Clips
PvE Gameplay Videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXhGn...feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwMb4GbXnjM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TSss...eature=related
Dungeon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNG_f...feature=relmfu
Boss Encounter- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0nCHPl_mEU

PvP Gameplay Videos
5v5 Structured-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeaCU...1&feature=plcp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0ay5...feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgSod...feature=relmfu
WorldvWorldvWorld-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzlAQCNnEyM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb03j...7&feature=plcp
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This game includes so much amazing and unique content that i cant just post all in one thread. It sets itself off from every other MMO and i recommend all of you to try it out.
Other than that you got to agree that this game is BEAUTIFUL!

RELEASE DATE: AUGUST 28 2012

-Albus 07-17-2012 12:20 AM

If you're interested, and have not yet prepurchased, there are tons of fansites out there offering beta keys for this upcoming beta weekend.

Furryamigo 07-17-2012 06:15 PM

Holy crap...that looks amazing!

Skill 07-17-2012 06:17 PM

Don't really care for it. Combat is all about facerolling the keyboard and honestly its only good for the mass PVP. Might get it because there's no subscription but I'm not really gonna play it much :P

KeN(Best) 07-31-2012 11:12 PM

Can't wait to own u noobs ;)

Rexx 07-31-2012 11:23 PM

Hopefully its not a flop like Diablo 3

Imprint 08-01-2012 02:30 AM

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Posted by Rexx
Hopefully its not a flop like Diablo 3

After playing all the beta weekends I feel like it has lived up to some of the hype. For example, all the articles about evolved questing are partly right, the quest line that random events incite is cool because your sucess or defeat effects the world. But, the tasks to complete events are just well hidden standard goals (To comeplete one heart quest you can kill spiders, cut webs or destroy egg sacs).

That said, PvP modes are very fun, the world is beautiful and the combat is very good.

Skill 08-01-2012 04:22 AM

tab targetting is going to kill this game.

Imprint 08-01-2012 05:18 AM

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Posted by Skill
tab targetting is going to kill this game.

Tell my why the game will die because it has auto targetting on some attacks.

KeN(Best) 08-03-2012 06:58 AM

It looks orgasmic...

Skill 08-03-2012 07:36 AM

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Posted by Imprint (Post 171573)
Tell my why the game will die because it has auto targetting on some attacks.

From the looks of it every skill it auto targeted with the exception of aoe. And most new MMOS are breaking free from the 15 year old auto target system. Going to be boring spamming the 1-9 keys, its like WoW but simplified and no auto attacks. Maybe a couple dodging things but still too easy.

-Albus 08-03-2012 08:51 AM

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Posted by Skill (Post 173120)
From the looks of it every skill it auto targeted with the exception of aoe. And most new MMOS are breaking free from the 15 year old auto target system. Going to be boring spamming the 1-9 keys, its like WoW but simplified and no auto attacks. Maybe a couple dodging things but still too easy.

Uh, I think Tera is the only one that tried to break away from the target system, and from the looks of it, that game isn't doing so well. The game plays nothing like WoW either, have you even played it? If so, did you play past level 20?

Skill 08-03-2012 09:35 AM

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Posted by -Albus (Post 173154)
Uh, I think Tera is the only one that tried to break away from the target system, and from the looks of it, that game isn't doing so well. The game plays nothing like WoW either, have you even played it? If so, did you play past level 20?

only real thing the game does differently than WoW is no tanks/healer/dps. Otherwise you still press the key you want and it casts. Its no fun. Might as well play with my eyes closed.

-Albus 08-03-2012 10:02 AM

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Posted by Skill (Post 173177)
only real thing the game does differently than WoW is no tanks/healer/dps. Otherwise you still press the key you want and it casts. Its no fun. Might as well play with my eyes closed.

Really? Have you really played it? Breaking away from the holy trinity of dps/tank/healer is huge itself, but it also breaks away from the whole questing system that has been the norm for the past 9 years. With your logic, I shouldn't be playing any kind of RPG since all I gotta do is press buttons and pressing buttons is no fun at all.

Skill 08-03-2012 10:28 AM

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Posted by -Albus (Post 173206)
Really? Have you really played it? Breaking away from the holy trinity of dps/tank/healer is huge itself, but it also breaks away from the whole questing system that has been the norm for the past 9 years. With your logic, I shouldn't be playing any kind of RPG since all I gotta do is press buttons and pressing buttons is no fun at all.

plenty of MMOs have broken free of the dps/tank/healer model... and plenty of them have a questing system like that...

-Albus 08-03-2012 10:32 AM

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Posted by Skill (Post 173231)
plenty of MMOs have broken free of the dps/tank/healer model... and plenty of them have a questing system like that...

Any successful ones?

Imprint 08-03-2012 01:14 PM

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Posted by Skill
plenty of MMOs have broken free of the dps/tank/healer model... and plenty of them have a questing system like that...

You're saying all these facts but you supply no evidence.

Have you played the game? Then you can comment on the gameplay.
Why will the game fail?
What popular games have "broken free"?

I don't value your opinion if your basing it off of videos. Watching a game is differen then playing it.

NiTe 08-03-2012 08:15 PM

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Posted by Skill (Post 173177)
only real thing the game does differently than WoW is no tanks/healer/dps. Otherwise you still press the key you want and it casts. Its no fun. Might as well play with my eyes closed.

have fun trying to play with your eyes closed when you will basically get knocked around like a tramp and miss all of your attacks, not knowing if your facing them or are in range based on your skills. Just because you have something targeted doesn't mean you are going to hit them. You have to be constantly moving.

Skill 08-07-2012 03:56 AM

Guess I'll give this game a shot... Only $60, so not much to lose. Preordered it. Gonna make a guild and hope to find a new game to keep me occupied since I'm sick of Graal.

Just a bit worried about what there is to do once you hit max level

Anyways when they announce the serverlist we need to pick a server for all of Graalians to play on, preferrably a PVE server because I don't like getting ganked in MMOS :P

Imprint 08-07-2012 04:05 AM

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Posted by Skill (Post 175473)
Anyways when they announce the serverlist we need to pick a server for all of Graalians to play on, preferrably a PVE server because I don't like getting ganked in MMOS :P

You do understand that all servers are PvE on the main map unless you want to participate in WvWvW or PvP arena matches right?

Skill 08-07-2012 04:24 AM

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Posted by Imprint (Post 175478)
You do understand that all servers are PvE on the main map unless you want to participate in WvWvW or PvP arena matches right?

Oh ok thats good, so basically all servers are pve servers :P anyways we should pick one for us all to play on so we can pick it right as the servers open.

NiTe 08-08-2012 08:53 PM

You can log on tomorrow 12pm-4pm PST. They are having a stress test. But they will be working on the game during the event so you might experience problems.(you should experience problems)

Skill 08-08-2012 11:21 PM

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Posted by NiTe (Post 176675)
You can log on tomorrow 12pm-4pm PST. They are having a stress test. But they will be working on the game during the event so you might experience problems.(you should experience problems)

Yeah saw that on fb.

Probably gonna try out world pvp, not gonna whine about any problems that result from connections.

What server ya on?

Imprint 08-09-2012 12:43 AM

Look for Lethonda DeMarcus skill.

Skill 08-09-2012 08:54 PM

game seems like a letdown so far :/

getting terrible fps on a gaming computer at low settings, controls are horrid and little to no direction as to what to do...

Imprint 08-09-2012 08:59 PM

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Posted by Skill (Post 177129)
game seems like a letdown so far :/

getting terrible fps on a gaming computer at low settings, controls are horrid and little to no direction as to what to do...

I get fine fps on a laptop to something must be wrong with your PC. Whats so horrid about the controls, and the game isn't supposed to lead to quests you aren't given a direction you have to go explore and find events.

Edit: The only direction you're given is with your main story, which is the only quest handed to you.

NiTe 08-09-2012 09:00 PM

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Posted by Skill (Post 177129)
game seems like a letdown so far :/

getting terrible fps on a gaming computer at low settings, controls are horrid and little to no direction as to what to do...

The game is in beta and this is a STRESS TEST. Your not suppose to play the game without having any problems. Your suppose to have problems. This isn't the final version. Its not fully optimized..

Skill 08-09-2012 09:09 PM

I also get like 10 fps on my laptop at lowest settings even though it meets the system requirements, making the game unplayable... Gonna request a refund.

NiTe 08-09-2012 09:17 PM

Then wait till launch and play it

Imprint 08-09-2012 09:28 PM

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Posted by Skill (Post 177138)
I also get like 10 fps on my laptop at lowest settings even though it meets the system requirements, making the game unplayable... Gonna request a refund.

We've already explained to you that you're playing a stress test on a game that is not fully optimized yet. So, you aren't supposed to get a smooth 60fps. Do I need to make myself any clearer, god.

Maxy 08-09-2012 09:57 PM

it's a great game and you should listen to the US members advertising.

Skill 08-09-2012 10:07 PM

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Posted by Imprint (Post 177149)
We've already explained to you that you're playing a stress test on a game that is not fully optimized yet. So, you aren't supposed to get a smooth 60fps. Do I need to make myself any clearer, god.

stress test causes server problems, not fps problems.

There were an insane amount of problems with logging in/disconnecting, but I never complained about those because its a stress test.

The graphics engine overall is bad and lags..

DanTheMan 08-09-2012 10:11 PM

Quoted from Guild Wars 2 facebook post:
"We will be actively working on the game during the event, so you might experience connectivity problems or discover features that are not working as designed. Any issues you experience are a result of the rigorous conditions of the stress test, and are in no way representative of the state of the game at launch."

Therefore, your comments about "server problems", "logging in/disconnecting", and "lag" have no standing.

Skill 08-09-2012 10:29 PM

I know, I agree with that.

My problems are with the rendering engine of the game, unrelated to the stress test.

alright I found a way to change up some files to disable certain shaders, the game barely lost any video quality yet I went from 10 to 40 fps... game is actually playable now

Sad they can't optimize the engine themselves to run on low end computers but an average guy can go through files and delete a few shaders to get the game to run smoothly...

well anyways now that I resolved the lag issues the game actually seems pretty decent... I had to change the controls from the awful default but its ok.

NiTe 08-09-2012 10:29 PM

The game atm is using a good amount of CPU over GPU. Its not fully optimized yet. And its not supporting DX11 during betas at the moment. All should be done post launch.

Skill 08-09-2012 10:34 PM

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Posted by NiTe (Post 177182)
The game atm is using a good amount of CPU over GPU. Its not fully optimized yet. And its not supporting DX11 during betas at the moment. All should be done post launch.

My gpu uses directx9, which is what the game runs on. the problem is they have too complex of shaders that the game relies on.

NiTe 08-09-2012 10:44 PM

What files did u end up deleting?

-Albus 08-10-2012 06:14 AM

Get a better computer. Game ran flawlessly for me earlier today.

Skill 08-10-2012 06:36 AM

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Posted by -Albus (Post 177383)
Get a better computer. Game ran flawlessly for me earlier today.

My computer is perfectly fine. It runs every other game I try maxed at 60 fps, many of which have vastly superior graphics.

The problem is gw2 hasn't optimized their engine for certain cards at all. You might be running on a card they optimized it for well...

Running a gtx 580 and a quad core 3ghz processor and still getting awful fps, its sad.

-Albus 08-10-2012 06:44 AM

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Posted by Skill (Post 177399)
gw2 hasn't optimized their engine for certain cards

There you go. Wait until the game is released, and then if you are still having problems, your complaints will be valid.

Skill 08-10-2012 06:47 AM

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Posted by -Albus (Post 177403)
There you go. Wait until the game is released, and then if you are still having problems, your complaints will be valid.

the game isn't going to get its whole graphics engine revamped 2 weeks before release. Maybe small bug fixes but nothing major like that.

If they did people would have issues and it would screw up their launch. They wouldn't announce a date if they still had work to do.

The graphics engine wont get optimized any time soon. maybe dx11 support added eventually, but they wont fix it.

-Albus 08-10-2012 07:10 AM

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Posted by Skill (Post 177406)
the game isn't going to get its whole graphics engine revamped 2 weeks before release. Maybe small bug fixes but nothing major like that.

If they did people would have issues and it would screw up their launch. They wouldn't announce a date if they still had work to do.

The graphics engine wont get optimized any time soon. maybe dx11 support added eventually, but they wont fix it.

As Nite stated earlier, the game is relying heavily on the CPU as opposed to the GPU. These issues are more than likely going to be fixed by the time the game launches. There is another stress test already announced for Friday evening. I have a feeling that they are doing these stress tests to collect data in order to have the game fully optimized by release.

Skill 08-10-2012 07:43 AM

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Posted by -Albus (Post 177416)
As Nite stated earlier, the game is relying heavily on the CPU as opposed to the GPU. These issues are more than likely going to be fixed by the time the game launches. There is another stress test already announced for Friday evening. I have a feeling that they are doing these stress tests to collect data in order to have the game fully optimized by release.

server stress tests are not for improving the graphics engine of the client, but rather the servers themselves to see how many connections they can handle and at what configurations.

-Albus 08-10-2012 07:48 AM

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Posted by Skill (Post 177433)
server stress tests are not for improving the graphics engine of the client, but rather the servers themselves to see how many connections they can handle and at what configurations.

Oh, I didn't realize you were a game developer and knew that the sole purpose of stress tests was for server configuration only.

Skill 08-10-2012 07:50 AM

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Posted by -Albus (Post 177438)
Oh, I didn't realize you were a game developer and knew that the sole purpose of stress tests was for server configuration only.

I've worked with networking before. Have you?

-Albus 08-10-2012 07:56 AM

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Posted by Skill (Post 177442)
I've worked with networking before. Have you?

What does that have to do with anything?

Skill 08-10-2012 08:33 AM

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Posted by -Albus (Post 177445)
What does that have to do with anything?

game servers use networking so people can connect to them. I understand the difference between network and client lag. Clearly you do not.

-Albus 08-10-2012 09:03 AM

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Posted by Skill (Post 177465)
game servers use networking so people can connect to them. I understand the difference between network and client lag. Clearly you do not.

First of all, I don't think setting up the wireless router at home counts as having worked with networking.

I never said you don't understand the difference, but ok, go ahead and say that I don't! What I said before was that the sole purpose of a stress test is not to test the servers. Most of the stress tests have a new build attached with them, so obviously they are doing things other then sporadically seeing if the servers can handle a load. Maybe with these new builds with each stress test, they could be working on having the game fully optimized by release.

Skill 08-10-2012 09:08 AM

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Posted by -Albus (Post 177482)
First of all, I don't think setting up the wireless router at home counts as having worked with networking.

I never said you don't understand the difference, but ok, go ahead and say that I don't! What I said before was that the sole purpose of a stress test is not to test the servers. Most of the stress tests have a new build attached with them, so obviously they are doing things other then sporadically seeing if the servers can handle a load. Maybe with these new builds with each stress test, they could be working on having the game fully optimized by release.

I've set up servers before.

You don't understand. its not just the fact that some cards aren't well supported. Its the fact the engine itself is awful. And no company would completely revamp their engine in 2 weeks.

Low settings resort to subsampling and drastically low textures without even offering reduced sight distance, The game renders stuff a mile away regardless of settings.

The game's textures also resort to shaders to show their true, correct colors- a terrible practice in design that will prevent them from optimizing the client to run smoothly. If they disabled those kinds of shaders a lot of things would show up miscolored.

the particle effects are also terribly done with no way to change them, in crowded pvp I literally go from 20 to 3 fps...

-Albus 08-10-2012 10:30 AM

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Posted by Skill (Post 177484)
I've set up servers before.

You don't understand. its not just the fact that some cards aren't well supported. Its the fact the engine itself is awful. And no company would completely revamp their engine in 2 weeks.

Low settings resort to subsampling and drastically low textures without even offering reduced sight distance, The game renders stuff a mile away regardless of settings.

The game's textures also resort to shaders to show their true, correct colors- a terrible practice in design that will prevent them from optimizing the client to run smoothly. If they disabled those kinds of shaders a lot of things would show up miscolored.

the particle effects are also terribly done with no way to change them, in crowded pvp I literally go from 20 to 3 fps...

Well I don't know what else I can say other than wait until the game is past beta and stress tests, before you try to demand a refund. I'm running the game with an i7 3.4 ghz cpu and a gtx 570 gpu with a framerate of 60 fps on max settings. I saw no reduction in framerate during any type of pvp, or during the bigger dynamic events. If you want, try playing around with drivers for your video card for tomorrow's event to see if that helps anything, or post on the official forums asking for help. But really, wait until the game is past beta before you say you want a refund.


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