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Equinox 08-03-2012 03:40 AM

Guild Transfer
 
Is it even possible to get a guild transfer?
What I'm trying to do is revive equinox (the guild) and was wondering if I could get leadership transferred to me.
The old leader Frøst had been offline for 325 days.
I was one of the founders of equinox with frost.

Lockdown 08-03-2012 03:47 AM

Yeah, people have done it.

Equinox 08-03-2012 04:45 AM

Do you know who I should contact about this?

Ash Ketchum 08-03-2012 04:58 AM

Might as well take PULSE since Rogue is offline for 100+ days

Eroz 08-03-2012 05:36 AM

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Posted by Ash Ketchum (Post 173051)
Might as well take PULSE since Rogue is offline for 100+ days

no one's going to take Pulse. Rogue wants it like this.

iHot 08-03-2012 05:49 AM

Oh equonix you mean that guild that failed? What about iBall they had so much potential!

Ash Ketchum 08-03-2012 05:53 AM

didn't iBall got reset for hacking one time?

iHot 08-03-2012 06:00 AM

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Posted by Ash Ketchum (Post 173073)
didn't iBall got reset for hacking one time?

I don't think so I looked up the guild they still have their tower time. That **** maeby ditched DJ for Adrian and COM now she owns COM.

Eroz 08-03-2012 06:31 AM

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Posted by iHot (Post 173080)
I don't think so I looked up the guild they still have their tower time. That **** maeby ditched DJ for Adrian and COM now she owns COM.

It was nice when Adrian was the main leader of CoM.

iHot 08-03-2012 06:40 AM

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Posted by Eroz (Post 173088)
It was nice when Adrian was the main leader of CoM.

Are they retired or on a long break?

Ash Ketchum 08-03-2012 09:48 AM

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Posted by iHot (Post 173093)
Are they retired or on a long break?

Retired most likely. IBall > CoM > Aimee

Maxy 08-03-2012 11:01 AM

call4combat had a lot of potential

Clown 08-03-2012 11:12 AM

I used to be a com member ever since Adrian was leader at 4k hours

Ryan 08-03-2012 11:37 AM

Nowadays graal is full of all these hat chasing guilds

Pazx 08-03-2012 11:45 AM

/unrelated

thx ryan for ur beautiful insight <3

Equinox 08-03-2012 02:31 PM

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Posted by Eroz (Post 173068)
no one's going to take Pulse. Rogue wants it like this.

^True
Unlike pulse's leader frost just randomly quits not giving us his intentions.

Tyler 08-03-2012 03:48 PM

325 days? I thought they cleared guild names for inactivity recently. That should have been one of them. It's actually very possible to have this done. I believe Saigon was the one who wanted the guild name 3nVy. I showed him the tag and that the leader has been inactive for quite some time and he got in touch with a couple staff and had the guild leadership transferred to him. So yes this can be done.

Pazx 08-03-2012 03:55 PM

They wouldn't go wiping guilds with as much time as Equinox Tyler.

I hope not, anyway.

Tyler 08-03-2012 05:37 PM

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Posted by Pazx (Post 173374)
They wouldn't go wiping guilds with as much time as Equinox Tyler.

I hope not, anyway.

A guild is a guild. It doesn't matter how much time they have. If the leader is inactive too long the guild should go to someone else.

iHot 08-03-2012 07:12 PM

Maybe Equonix will make a return It will be nice to see them on the map.

Eroz 08-03-2012 08:04 PM

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Posted by Tyler (Post 173395)
A guild is a guild. It doesn't matter how much time they have. If the leader is inactive too long the guild should go to someone else.

Guilds in the leaderboards won't be deleted.

Winter 08-03-2012 08:09 PM

I've also been looking for some way to transfer guild leadership, but from an old "non-VIP" account of mine. I no longer own an iPod, and cannot reach this account, and I would much rather not wait a year to recover it.. good luck to all with similar problems.

Tyler 08-03-2012 10:29 PM

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Posted by Eroz (Post 173451)
Guilds in the leaderboards won't be deleted.

Why? Just because they're in the leaderboards?

Equinox 08-03-2012 10:35 PM

Anyone know what I should do?

Tyler 08-03-2012 11:55 PM

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Posted by Equinox (Post 173556)
Anyone know what I should do?

I would contact a staff such as Xor or Julius and ask about a leadership transfer. Explain to them about the leader being inactive for a certain amount of days and you would like to take over and make it active again.

Imprint 08-03-2012 11:58 PM

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Posted by Tyler (Post 173596)
I would contact a staff such as Xor or Julius and ask about a leadership transfer. Explain to them about the leader being inactive for a certain amount of days and you would like to take over and make it active again.

To transfer a guild I'm pretty sure both the leader and the recipient have to agree.

Ash Ketchum 08-04-2012 12:14 AM

I say if you want a guild with 100h + go f your selves! go make your own guild and try to get 100hrs, not someone else's

Tyler 08-04-2012 01:20 AM

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Posted by Imprint (Post 173601)
To transfer a guild I'm pretty sure both the leader and the recipient have to agree.

Good luck getting a guy who hasn't been on over 300 days to respond. I don't think tower guilds with a lot of time should get special treatment. If the leader doesn't keep the guild active and just leaves it to die that's their choice. If someone else wants to take it over and make it active again they should be given the chance. It sucks to see a guild with so many tower hours lay dead. Unless of course it's members are still taking towers.

Edit: They need an amount of days if the leader isn't on the guild gets disband. So many good guild names and so many inactive people.

Pazx 08-04-2012 02:35 AM

Would tower time and spar score be wiped in your proposition, Tyler?

Tyler 08-04-2012 02:59 AM

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Posted by Pazx (Post 173700)
Would tower time and spar score be wiped in your proposition, Tyler?

Spar score yes, but tower time no. If you think about it tower time for a guild is the history of it's previous successors amount of time they held it for and it's passed along to the next leader. Spar score you have to maintain and keep getting up while tower time just stays there and doesn't go up or down if untouched.

Equinox 08-04-2012 03:04 AM

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Posted by Imprint (Post 173601)
To transfer a guild I'm pretty sure both the leader and the recipient have to agree.

If I could actually contact him there would be no reason for me wanting the guild. And no I'm not trying to steal it, I was one of the founders of equinox. It disappoints me that the guild is dead.

Pazx 08-04-2012 03:06 AM

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Posted by Tyler (Post 173714)
Spar score yes, but tower time no. If you think about it tower time for a guild is the history of it's previous successors amount of time they held it for and it's passed along to the next leader. Spar score you have to maintain and keep getting up while tower time just stays there and doesn't go up or down if untouched.

So you're suggesting that in a few months time, anybody who likes should be able to steal PULSE with their 2000+ hours?

Tyler 08-04-2012 03:12 AM

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Posted by Pazx (Post 173723)
So you're suggesting that in a few months time, anybody who likes should be able to steal PULSE with their 2000+ hours?

That depends on your definition of a "few". I think if the leader is inactive for 200 or 300 days the guild goes to someone else. That's a fair amount of time considering 200 days is 6 months and 300 is 10 months. If the person is going to be gone for a long period of time because they're grounded or something they should give leadership to someone else until they return.

Pazx 08-04-2012 03:13 AM

Answer the question: would it be fair for leadership of PULSE to go to somebody else?

Also Rogue's been gone for way over a year anyway.

Tyler 08-04-2012 03:16 AM

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Posted by Pazx (Post 173729)
Answer the question: would it be fair for leadership of PULSE to go to somebody else?

Also Rogue's been gone for way over a year anyway.

Yes. He's not doing anything with it so it should go to someone else. If he wanted to keep it just for himself to be displayed on the scoreboard all he has to do is log in once in awhile.

Pazx 08-04-2012 03:22 AM

I honestly wasn't expecting that whatsoever, but I guess I'll disagree. It is his guild, and he worked hard for the towers with a close-knit group of people that became or were his friends. I don't think taking the guild away from those people who worked so hard is fair, and I don't think it can be justified. Some, if not most of those people are gone now, but I think and hope the entire iClassic community respects them, and stealing their guild and tower time isn't exactly showing them the respect they deserve.

Tyler 08-04-2012 03:29 AM

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Posted by Pazx (Post 173740)
I honestly wasn't expecting that whatsoever, but I guess I'll disagree. It is his guild, and he worked hard for the towers with a close-knit group of people that became or were his friends. I don't think taking the guild away from those people who worked so hard is fair, and I don't think it can be justified. Some, if not most of those people are gone now, but I think and hope the entire iClassic community respects them, and stealing their guild and tower time isn't exactly showing them the respect they deserve.

I do respect the tower guilds and their leaders who work hard to earn that time. However, if they're not active or at least signing on Graal once in awhile it should go to someone else who will make it active again. I think they should add an option in the guild called "History". It would have pages of it's past leaders and when you clicked on the leader it would show how many hours that person got for the guild when they were leader. This would only work though if the server kept track of this stuff. Regardless if this was added or not I'm still standing by it going to someone else.

Winter 08-04-2012 03:30 AM

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Posted by Tyler (Post 173664)
Edit: They need an amount of days if the leader isn't on the guild gets disband. So many good guild names and so many inactive people.

After a certain amount of days spent consecutively offline while holding a guild leadership position, a guild leader is refunded and the guild disbanded, manually of course. This means that some may slip past moderation, and the staff team need only be reminded of this fact.

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Posted by Tyler (Post 173734)
Yes. He's not doing anything with it so it should go to someone else.

I do not like this sentence.. When Rogue left and everyone was dancing around him begging him to stay, I talked with him for a little while. He made it very clear that his guild reached its goal and would successfully retire. I don't think it would be favorable for the guild itself if some other player was given the chance (without the original leader's consent) to rebuild the guild from the bottom up again.

I also think many other guilds would agree with this fact, unless of course all they want is another prize for their guild fort towers or whatever..

Tyler 08-04-2012 03:37 AM

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Posted by Winter (Post 173747)
After a certain amount of days spent consecutively offline while holding a guild leadership position, a guild leader is refunded and the guild disbanded, manually of course. This means that some may slip past moderation, and the staff team need only be reminded of this fact.

I meant like an automated system. I already knew the staff took care of someone the inactive guilds, but I don't know how many days they consider it inactive or how often they clear them.

Winter 08-04-2012 03:44 AM

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Posted by Tyler (Post 173752)
I meant like an automated system. I already knew the staff took care of someone the inactive guilds, but I don't know how many days they consider it inactive or how often they clear them.

An automatic system would get rid of most, if not all inactive guilds that slip past administration. However, I can see possible, yet unlikely events occurring. Perhaps someone actually stopped playing the game for a few years, and decided to start up again. Perhaps finding out that a guild they lead is now owned by some random person across the world isn't the most pleasant of ways to return to the game. As much as I would like to agree with you, there is no way to completely negate the possibility of a problem to occur..

topsamman 08-04-2012 03:54 AM

When I used to play I would help equinox out all the time :D

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Posted by Ash Ketchum (Post 173051)
Might as well take PULSE since Rogue is offline for 100+ days

I remember that day when he left it was so sad :'(

Tyler 08-04-2012 03:57 AM

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Posted by Winter (Post 173759)
An automatic system would get rid of most, if not all inactive guilds that slip past administration. However, I can see possible, yet unlikely events occurring. Perhaps someone actually stopped playing the game for a few years, and decided to start up again. Perhaps finding out that a guild they lead is now owned by some random person across the world isn't the most pleasant of ways to return to the game. As much as I would like to agree with you, there is no way to completely negate the possibility of a problem to occur..

Not trying to sound like I'm heartless or anything, but if someone leaves that long they really should lose the guild so someone else can have it. I know this is a community and a lot of people know each other which is one reason why I'm going to get disagreement here, but there are new players coming and others who would like to do towers and continue the legacy of some already started. If the person has good morals they will give the guild back to the person if they return although people may not know the previous leaders. The disbanding of guilds doesn't benefit me in the slightest, but for people who were founders or helped the guild probably would like to continue it like this guy who posted this thread.

Pazx 08-04-2012 03:59 AM

OP is a special exception Tyler. He founded Equinox, he's not some random trying to grab PULSE with all its fort time.

Tyler 08-04-2012 04:12 AM

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Posted by Pazx (Post 173770)
OP is a special exception Tyler. He founded Equinox, he's not some random trying to grab PULSE with all its fort time.

One of the major issues about a guild getting disband is you don't know if it's going to end in a random guys possession who doesn't do anything with it like you stated. It's also bad to treat guilds with more tower hours more important than other guilds that could hold different values. This is honestly giving me a headache because I'm agreeing and disagreeing with myself at the same time.

Equinox 08-04-2012 04:13 AM

I agree with you guys.
If frost said he was retiring the guild I would not be trying to take it. I've waited almost a year for him to comeback and nothing. Guilds that retire = stay retired. Frost randomly left and said nothing about what should be done with the guild. Unlike frost rogue wanted his guild retired, and I think it should stay that way.

Still no replies from staff members concerning this issue.
EDIT: just got a reply from Julius

Winter 08-04-2012 04:13 AM

If I were a guild leader and I stopped playing Graal, I definitely would not want someone else ruining the name of my guild, especially someone I never gave permission to do so. Perhaps my personal thought process blocks a more objective view Tyler takes on the subject, but I still see no reason a new player should get first say as to what happens to an older guild once left to die. You can't always assume the leader would be OK with a resurrection, and you can't just assume the leader had specific reasons the guild should completely die. In the case of PULSE, I know firsthand that there was supposed to be no recreation of the guild at all, as directed by the leader. Although, people couldn't resist, so they made another guild anyway..

My situation is completely different, however. The leader of the guild I need leadership transferred from is a "non-VIP" account of mine before I sold my iPod. Nobody will ever log on, and I really don't want to wait a good year or so to regain the guild (which I was holding for someone in the first place, doubt they want to wait for it either). This is a different situation in which I believe the person asking for the guild reserves the right to lead. Inactive guilds are never the same, similar treatment is hardly possible..

Tyler 08-04-2012 04:22 AM

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Posted by Winter (Post 173779)
If I were a guild leader and I stopped playing Graal, I definitely would not want someone else ruining the name of my guild, especially someone I never gave permission to do so. Perhaps my personal thought process blocks a more objective view Tyler takes on the subject, but I still see no reason a new player should get first say as to what happens to an older guild once left to die. You can't always assume the leader would be OK with a resurrection, and you can't just assume the leader had specific reasons the guild should completely die. In the case of PULSE, I know firsthand that there was supposed to be no recreation of the guild at all, as directed by the leader. Although, people couldn't resist, so they made another guild anyway..

My situation is completely different, however. The leader of the guild I need leadership transferred from is a "non-VIP" account of mine before I sold my iPod. Nobody will ever log on, and I really don't want to wait a good year or so to regain the guild (which I was holding for someone in the first place, doubt they want to wait for it either). This is a different situation in which I believe the person asking for the guild reserves the right to lead. Inactive guilds are never the same, similar treatment is hardly possible..

I really hate playing favorites, but it's really hard to treat a guild that was made and never used and a guild that was made and got 4,000 hours and retired the same. It's just impossible for me. I'm honestly fine with how it is right now I guess. Just scratch my argument.

Pazx 08-04-2012 04:25 AM

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Posted by Winter (Post 173779)
Although, people couldn't resist, so they made another guild anyway..

Which guild was that? There was no recreation of PULSE from the actual PULSE members. Anyway, in your case, wouldn't an account transfer suffice? In Equinox's case, I'm not sure. I think we all want to see him get the guild, but whether that would be right or not I'm unsure about, it's in a fairly grey area.

Equinox 08-04-2012 04:26 AM

Julius told me to fill out a classic account problems page but I'm a little unsure because this isn't really a account problem.

Tyler 08-04-2012 04:31 AM

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Posted by Equinox (Post 173787)
Julius told me to fill out a classic account problems page but I'm a little unsure because this isn't really a account problem.

Does he think the guild leader is your other account?


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