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Higbey 10-11-2012 02:44 AM

A lot of people ask me why I have this demon persona. Why I separate myself from humans.
I have a universal view.

For some reason or another, be it the rare brain disorder thats been shown that my brain doesn't wire up the same, the way I was raised, my interest in science and my introversion, my personality, my genes, or any combination of the above, I'm not like a human.

I've baffled psychologists, had my parents be advised to take me to a more advanced "mental institute" (luckily they refused)
And said and thought things that most people find extreme.

I hate human nature, I feel it was wrong that humans progressed to this level, that they misused their trait of advanced intelligence and manipulation. I feel most government systems corrupt or ineffective, and so flawed they are beyond help. I find the most efficient things are the most heartless things..

I feel we destroy this world, like we are a mistake, that makes more mistakes, until all of human history is filled with big mistakes and misuse.

I find myself an outsider.

Someone sees a house centipede and they kill it, destroy it for being trapped in this unearthly thing we made where its home was, so much so it's modern habitat is our homes now.

I capture and release the house centipede, understanding its role in nature, it beneficially preying on spiders and bugs in your home that can do damage.

I say the wolves and mountain lions and bears should have been preserved as they hunt deer and maintain the food web.
The people a long time ago already chose to shoot nearly all of them for accidents that were caused by people being idiots and not understanding nature.

Im not a human. I will never be like one, my brain is different, for better or worse.

I see this world in a way few will see it. The people believe that humans will die in a apocalypse. I believe that apocalypse has been steadily gotten worse and worse ever since homo sapiens originated.

So here is the truth.

I see the world through science. I see this world as flawed by us.. I see ourselves as doing the impossible and learning and doing and understanding all these things.. Only for select few realizing what this progress Is doing.. Has done..

All of humans will die, but not without scarring the planet and taking thousands of species out with us.

inb4 tldr

HappyCat123 10-11-2012 02:47 AM

tl;dr.

MattKan 10-11-2012 02:50 AM

tl;dr

MrSimons 10-11-2012 02:52 AM

I managed to read the whole thing, you seem to be able to somehow make what you type not look like a massive brick wall of words. So um, not tl;dr

Blueh 10-11-2012 02:53 AM

We must not hate human nature, we must work together to overcome it. We are not animals of the mud or sea. We have the gift of conscious, the power to create and procreate. Abilities to comprehend and progress further. If it were true to be a mistake of existence, we learn from mistakes. To mature and develop a greater universal understanding of ourselves and all that is given. So long as there is greed, so long there is envy and pride, we cannot archive such developments. Yet it is a necessity in the world to have learned from such mistakes that have plagued our ancestry. From that, we adapt and progress.

Higbey 10-11-2012 03:02 AM

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Posted by Blueh (Post 211681)
We must not hate human nature, we must work together to overcome it. We are not animals of the mud or sea. We have the gift of conscious, the power to create and procreate. Abilities to comprehend and progress further. If it were true to be a mistake of existence, we learn from mistakes. To mature and develop a greater universal understanding of ourselves and all that is given. So long as there is greed, so long there is envy and pride, we cannot archive such developments. Yet it is a necessity in the world to have learned from such mistakes that have plagued our ancestry. From that, we adapt and progress.

And sadly that could never happen. No great Being to press everyone into following and doing the right thing together.

Sad to know the best thing to happen to the earths ecosystem would be a genetically engineered super virus ( that is lethal and quick after first symptoms) being dispersed at all major airport hubs. Perfume spray, hand sanitizer, easily filled with the virus. Hit a bunch of pilots with it in each airport, and the fate of the human race is sealed. Planet of the apes incorporated this theory into the storyline.

iSilver 10-11-2012 03:10 AM

this kind of stuff makes me want to sit in a corner and weep for humanity.

great thread. Really like it.

MrSimons 10-11-2012 03:16 AM

Anyone else want some lethal virus would come along and kill off all human life like Higbey said?

DragonRider 10-11-2012 03:19 AM

lel

Higbey 10-11-2012 03:23 AM

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Posted by Mr.$imons (Post 211705)
Anyone else some lethal virus would come along and kill off all human life like Higbey said?

Saving lives with medicine actually harms us.

By using these medicines to save lives that would be normally lost to these illnesses it's interfereing with natural selection selecting those whom have greater immunity to said illnesses, while the medicine puts a pressure on the bacteria/ virus so the ones able to be immune to the medicine thrive, causing these super bacteria that medicine cant stop, it's a basically a arms race between illnesses and medicines.

Pimpsy G. 10-11-2012 03:30 AM

Again, just because humanity is viewed as a parasite towards the earth by yourself does not mean you are somehow different or separate. There are many other people like you, I used to think exactly like you and pity humanity, but I soon realized that thinking like that does nothing at all but cause depression and isolation.

The very fact that you want to be alive means you are just as human as all of us and you have a right to happiness and being a normal citizen. Nothing changes that. There is literally no point in valuing other lifeforms above our own, because it defies the very point of nature: Competition. In all honesty they don't give a sh*t about us, and frankly we are treating them better and sacrificing more resources than we ever have done in our history today to save them. But it wont make a difference if our population keeps rising.

So, how do we fix this? Nope, not the one child policy, its educating females. It has been proven time and time again that if we educate females in developing countries their population will slow down and their birth rate will go down because they will be more independent and make choices by themselves. Ironically, unlike what you said, it can happen. We can fix this through innovation, education, and progress.

Humanity has always found ways to overcome its problems. Unlike any other species on earth, we actually care about the rest. You have proven that. And that is something to take pride about.

“We are just an advanced breed of monkeys on a minor planet of a very average star. But we can understand the Universe. That makes us something very special.”
~Stephen Hawking

MrSimons 10-11-2012 03:33 AM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 211717)
Saving lives with medicine actually harms us.

By using these medicines to save lives that would be normally lost to these illnesses it's interfereing with natural selection selecting those whom have greater immunity to said illnesses, while the medicine puts a pressure on the bacteria/ virus so the ones able to be immune to the medicine thrive, causing these super bacteria that medicine cant stop, it's a basically a arms race between illnesses and medicines.

I guess this is a bit off topic (Nevermind incredibly off topic) but a lot of our creations made to improve health actually are causing quite a bit of problems. Take toothpaste for example. We don't actually need it our teeth could in theory fight off the bacteria on their own, as long as we aren't eating a bowl of sugar or anything else that we truly shouldn't be consuming (Unfortunately most of America does this). But toothpaste will actually kill off what allows our teeth to survive without toothpaste. I actually have friends that never use toothpaste, yes their breath is murderous but their teeth are way cleaner than mine... Fun fact of the day! :D

Blueh 10-11-2012 03:38 AM

I've posted it before, and I'll post it again. Just because it proves a good point.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...1oelUZbZok_gMg

Pimpsy G. 10-11-2012 03:40 AM

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Posted by Mr.$imons (Post 211725)
I guess this is a bit off topic (Nevermind incredibly off topic) but a lot of our creations made to improve health actually are causing quite a bit of problems. Take toothpaste for example. We don't actually need it our teeth could in theory fight off the bacteria on their own, as long as we aren't eating a bowl of sugar or anything else that we truly shouldn't be consuming (Unfortunately most of America does this). But toothpaste will actually kill off what allows our teeth to survive without toothpaste. I actually have friends that never use toothpaste, yes their breath is murderous but their teeth are way cleaner than mine... Fun fact of the day! :D

Throughout history average people have not made it past the age of 30 because of things like teeth decay and disease, medicine is part of the reason that, in this modern consumer culture, we can live to beyond the age of 70 on average. Although a good example of what you are talking about is the Tarahumara people of mexico, who live to 70 on average with no modern medicine by simply running large distances to hunt animals. But this cannot be done with the direction humanity is going, and if we ever want to get off this rock and explore the universe, we have to keep pushing towards progress or we will be primitive animals warring on a rock forever.

Higbey 10-11-2012 03:42 AM

Something special yes... But untill we are in a super space ship mothership, united, in democracy, with renewable and reusable resource systems... Then I don't want to be human..

I've come to accept things I dream of will most likely not happen, and almost definitely not within my lifespan, so what's the point in trying it when it's not ready?

I still try to be as green as sensibly possible, while recognizing the problem and the outcome.

It could be very well compared to life itself.

You know you will die. You know it's basically impossible for you to make yourself immortal. You know that you can do things to make your life better /last longer.

Theres no point killing yourself over it, and there is no point constantly going on about it. All you can do is make it better /last longer and hold onto that slim hope that in the future they will succeed.


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