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Richard 01-29-2013 06:21 PM

Apple In-App purchase refund
 
During the next couple of days (maybe weeks) I will be researching what the App Store deems as 'fair' in terms of in-app purchases and modifying the behavior of what you expected to purchase and what was done to it weeks or months later.

I'm sure there's some sort of blanket provision in the agreement that says that developers are able to change the the item you've purchased but to what degree.. i'm not sure.

A word to the developer, STOP charging such a premium for the guns in-game and then nuking them months later. It's sloppy, irresponsible and reflects just how much thought and effort goes into the game; when it comes to the guns you guys are a mess.

I'm also actually surprised about just how passive everyone is on this subject.

lord greg 01-29-2013 06:36 PM

It's better that a few people get annoyed with their items being nerfed than the game being ruined forever

Richard 01-29-2013 06:38 PM

Should've been thought about before it was released greg.

It's called "planning".

And i actually know a couple of people who have spent over $100 on weapons, just to have them 'adjusted' days later. Not fair.

lord greg 01-29-2013 06:44 PM

I agree better planning is needed but they had to do something to fix the problems they had.

Richard 01-29-2013 06:51 PM

So.. what do you tell the people that spent over $50 on a gun expecting it to operate a certain way only to change it.

Its a can of worms that i don't think they want to open.

lord greg 01-29-2013 06:55 PM

Well they still own the item and it functions. It just stops them having an giant advantage over everyone else. So I don't think they should have to refund it all. But it is a dificult situation as whatever happens people will be annoyed.

Talon 01-30-2013 05:20 AM

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Posted by Richard (Post 289056)
Should've been thought about before it was released greg.

It's called "planning".

And i actually know a couple of people who have spent over $100 on weapons, just to have them 'adjusted' days later. Not fair.

"The best laid schemes of mice and men go often astray."

Even with careful planning, thought, and consideration, nothing on release can ever be balanced. Look at League of Legends, for example. Riot Games is one of the biggest game companies worldwide with entire teams to analyze new champions before they're released, put them into a beta stage, fix them again, yet there are still bi-monthly updates to overhaul many champions, even years after their release. Everything is always rebalanced - everything! - based on the community's feedback. No complex game can ever be 100% balanced - ever - and Era's poor pricing system (more expensive = more stats -??-) doesn't help the case at all.

islander13 01-30-2013 06:40 AM

I really want to know Apple thinks about this as well. I'll go ahead and do the same and do some research :D

Era News 01-30-2013 06:54 AM

I'm on Richards side on this

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Posted by lord greg (Post 289078)
Well they still own the item and it functions. It just stops them having an giant advantage over everyone else. So I don't think they should have to refund it all. But it is a dificult situation as whatever happens people will be annoyed.

That's not the point, I'm personally a sten user so I'm am outside party for this as I got it for free when events gave away guns. But the players only spent $50 on a gun to GET that giant advantage over everyone else, why do you think they would of wasted that money.

I actually think this counts as major fraud since your not actually getting what you paid for.

Jester Lapse 01-30-2013 01:05 PM

Deja Vu. This topic is nothing new, I remember a thread going on for pages and pages about how so and do was going to sue era blah bleh. Didn't work out too well for them I don't think.

Ghettoicedtea 01-30-2013 04:46 PM

._. If this happened i could get a bucket load of money from thi saying that all the guns i never used anymore were nerfed and say that i used it. If anything this would be abused so no

lord greg 01-30-2013 05:19 PM

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Posted by Era News (Post 289471)
I'm on Richards side on this



That's not the point, I'm personally a sten user so I'm am outside party for this as I got it for free when events gave away guns. But the players only spent $50 on a gun to GET that giant advantage over everyone else, why do you think they would of wasted that money.

I actually think this counts as major fraud since your not actually getting what you paid for.

You do get it and it changes. That's like buying a car and after a few years it doesn't work properly and claiming it was fraud.

flamecrow 01-30-2013 05:24 PM

or buying an app in the appstore that gets a patch or update, and you not liking the new/modified app features.

Alpho 01-30-2013 08:07 PM

You guys are all stupid. Nothing will be changed.

Richard 01-30-2013 08:08 PM

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Posted by flamecrow (Post 289641)
or buying an app in the appstore that gets a patch or update, and you not liking the new/modified app features.

Most apps don't have a price tag of $90 or however much it costs for the bar or PBP. Which let me remind you is WAY out of the average price range of 1.99 for an app.

lord greg let me adjust what you said..
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Posted by lord greg (Post 289640)
You do get it and it changes. That's like buying a car and after a few years the car maker finds a defect in the car that would make them recall it.

Correct! And in that case the defect is replaced for free. I never bought that gun with the expectation of it being 'adjusted'.


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