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Jethrow 05-21-2013 09:22 PM

Developing PvP Ideas
 
I think you guys need to take another perspective in choosing admins. Focus more on hiring admins that want and can make a difference in changing pvp to make it better. For an example, Graal Era has many admins that host events and watch for glitches and hackers. But there are also admin like Kane, kastro, KPandavi and more that have experienced pking and sparring and know ways to improve it. In Graal Zone all we have are GP who host random events and like releasing pets, dances and nonsense. Make zone more of pvp because I am seeing new pkers and sparrers everyday with very high potential. Maybe hire people like rotaruc, reos, or even meph or whileloop. Hiring admins like these have a better perspective on guns and how they work, pvp events that entertain people and etc. Zone would be very successful if you would hire admins who Spar and Pk and can improve pvp, and also hire people who can host events and be GP. I think this would really help out zone. Because people like veri apples, ADi, Tashkin, or even Stefan know nothing about nerfing guns or creating or developing ideas for pvp that would make this game even greater! Please consider this, quit focusing on pets and morphs and dances (veri apples) because pkers and sparrers are quiting because nobody is developing pvp ideas that will entertain us. So please, hire Graalians in zone who have a perpective on sparring and pking. Not just the people who afk and answer questions for noobs. You can even hire a group of sparrers and pkers who can come up with ideas which can benefit zone.

Masters 05-21-2013 09:46 PM

Finally, someone who makes sense

fUnK 05-21-2013 10:36 PM

That's actually a pretty good idea. Instead of releasing random dancing moves -.-

Tashkin 05-22-2013 07:34 AM

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Posted by Jethrow (Post 355131)
I think you guys need to take another perspective in choosing admins. Focus more on hiring admins that want and can make a difference in changing pvp to make it better. For an example, Graal Era has many admins that host events and watch for glitches and hackers. But there are also admin like Kane, kastro, KPandavi and more that have experienced pking and sparring and know ways to improve it. In Graal Zone all we have are GP who host random events and like releasing pets, dances and nonsense. Make zone more of pvp because I am seeing new pkers and sparrers everyday with very high potential. Maybe hire people like rotaruc, reos, or even meph or whileloop. Hiring admins like these have a better perspective on guns and how they work, pvp events that entertain people and etc. Zone would be very successful if you would hire admins who Spar and Pk and can improve pvp, and also hire people who can host events and be GP. I think this would really help out zone. Because people like veri apples, ADi, Tashkin, or even Stefan know nothing about nerfing guns or creating or developing ideas for pvp that would make this game even greater! Please consider this, quit focusing on pets and morphs and dances (veri apples) because pkers and sparrers are quiting because nobody is developing pvp ideas that will entertain us. So please, hire Graalians in zone who have a perpective on sparring and pking. Not just the people who afk and answer questions for noobs. You can even hire a group of sparrers and pkers who can come up with ideas which can benefit zone.

I actually know plenty about these weapons. The problem is players cry when the cheapest weapon in the game becomes worse than a weapon that is 10 times it's price. Keeping things balanced is what we need on this game. Else we will wind up with items that cost a fortune on the game. As for hiring staff we choose staff (GP wise) that do not have an outrageous ban history. We not only check the iOS account, but the PC account as well. This is done for security reasons. The smaller updates we are releasing are simply because we are still trying to get actual Developers on the server. Developers that create the content instead of just give the ideas. As much as I would love to have things done immediately it is just not possible. Developers are not plentiful on Graal so finding qualified developers is not an easy task. We have slowly been working on things for the server and will continue to do so until these task are finished and we can release. As stated before though these things take time. Hiring somebody that PK's a lot is not going to increase development on the server. As stated many times we are doing what we can with who we have at the moment. Hopefully we will get more help in the future and we can start getting things finished at a faster pace, but until then we ask that you all be patient with things getting released. There are many things we are working on and I think you will all enjoy them once they are finished.

WhileLoop 05-22-2013 11:40 AM

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Posted by Tashkin (Post 355366)
I actually know plenty about these weapons. The problem is players cry when the cheapest weapon in the game becomes worse than a weapon that is 10 times it's price. Keeping things balanced is what we need on this game. Else we will wind up with items that cost a fortune on the game. As for hiring staff we choose staff (GP wise) that do not have an outrageous ban history. We not only check the iOS account, but the PC account as well. This is done for security reasons. The smaller updates we are releasing are simply because we are still trying to get actual Developers on the server. Developers that create the content instead of just give the ideas. As much as I would love to have things done immediately it is just not possible. Developers are not plentiful on Graal so finding qualified developers is not an easy task. We have slowly been working on things for the server and will continue to do so until these task are finished and we can release. As stated before though these things take time. Hiring somebody that PK's a lot is not going to increase development on the server. As stated many times we are doing what we can with who we have at the moment. Hopefully we will get more help in the future and we can start getting things finished at a faster pace, but until then we ask that you all be patient with things getting released. There are many things we are working on and I think you will all enjoy them once they are finished.

For the "Idealist Admin" market, it is hard to sell, and even harder to buy. To hire somebody primarily based on their ideas and on-the-job experience you either hit the bullseye or miss the target, and too often is the latter the outcome. I believe Tashkin is investing his time on the implementing the levels, graphics, ideas, etc already developed before hiring somebody whose primary contribution is to throw more at his already swamped team.

It is eternally valuable(and, because it is my specialty, necessary) to have a shot caller with years and years of experience in PKing, weapon balance, economic stabilization, and ideas to stimulate and attract players. It isn't easy to choose and hire somebody solely for these ideals. It isn't like showing a graphic, level, or script to prove your weight in salt. The posts and actions, both in game and on these forums, are what establish you as a "professional player".

Remember that feedbacks, criticism, and perspectives will be received whether you hire somebody to provide it or not. It is a huge gamble as management to give somebody power (in permission or title) for these offerings. If you're already eating a small fry, do you really need to buy a large fry this second?

Shiz 05-22-2013 02:00 PM

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Posted by Jethrow (Post 355131)
I think you guys need to take another perspective in choosing admins. Focus more on hiring admins that want and can make a difference in changing pvp to make it better. For an example, Graal Era has many admins that host events and watch for glitches and hackers. But there are also admin like Kane, kastro, KPandavi and more that have experienced pking and sparring and know ways to improve it. In Graal Zone all we have are GP who host random events and like releasing pets, dances and nonsense. Make zone more of pvp because I am seeing new pkers and sparrers everyday with very high potential. Maybe hire people like rotaruc, reos, or even meph or whileloop. Hiring admins like these have a better perspective on guns and how they work, pvp events that entertain people and etc. Zone would be very successful if you would hire admins who Spar and Pk and can improve pvp, and also hire people who can host events and be GP. I think this would really help out zone. Because people like veri apples, ADi, Tashkin, or even Stefan know nothing about nerfing guns or creating or developing ideas for pvp that would make this game even greater! Please consider this, quit focusing on pets and morphs and dances (veri apples) because pkers and sparrers are quiting because nobody is developing pvp ideas that will entertain us. So please, hire Graalians in zone who have a perpective on sparring and pking. Not just the people who afk and answer questions for noobs. You can even hire a group of sparrers and pkers who can come up with ideas which can benefit zone.

Ok first of all, the only reason Era has more staff is because they need that many staff to moderate a 2,000 player count. Second of all, Tashkin is a great manager, you have absolutely no idea what is being worked on behind scenes. Last time I checked out last update was a PVP Streak system. And I am pretty sure we havent released any new pets yet. Third, we are working on a new tileset which will change the view on zone forever, possibly bringing much more entertainment for the players. By the way, we dont respond because most of the staff is actually working and not respondin to spam. If you have a problem in-game use the report tab/feedback. All reports/feedbacks are shown to all staff in RC. Please be patient for updates. All I see on Graalians is complaints on how we arnt working and that you think were being "lazy". Okay, it doesnt take a snap of a finger to have a project finished, it takes time and effort to be put into it. Thank you, have a good day.

99% 05-22-2013 03:19 PM

I assume you're one of these "die-hard Sparrers and Player Killers" whom "deserve to be hired" because they can "benefit the system" with their vast "Player Killing and Sparring Knowledge", though they can boast no developmental skills whatsoever? So how would you and your "Sparring and Player Killing" buds start their adminship? Showing off to friends, hosting events or abusing powers?

fsh 05-22-2013 03:35 PM

i disagree completely, Tashkin is good managment.

Ryan 05-23-2013 09:03 AM

Moar Spring like pvp maps!

Tashkin 05-23-2013 09:04 AM

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Posted by Ryan (Post 355970)
Moar Spring like pvp maps!

We actually have two new ones made. We just need to make some adjustments and get them added to main.

Ryan 05-23-2013 11:50 AM

ermagerddd

fUnK 05-23-2013 11:55 AM

I think ou guys need to stop telling us what your working on before its even close to done. Because when you do, it always comes out 2-3 weeks later.

Ryan 05-23-2013 11:56 AM

He never said they were coming soon

fUnK 05-23-2013 02:52 PM

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Posted by Ryan (Post 356023)
He never said they were coming soon

Ahhh, but he never said they weren't coming soon.

Shiz 05-23-2013 02:57 PM

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Posted by fUnK (Post 356089)
Ahhh, but he never said they weren't coming soon.

Oh. My. God. Whenever Tashkin says we're working on something, it's coming out. Coming out "soon". Time and effort is being put into a lot of things so everyone hold you horses please.


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