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romario786 06-18-2013 12:49 AM

To the GA of iEra
 
This thread is directed at to the Guns Admin. Can you please sort out the KSG and make it worth it's price of 75k, it has been months or perhaps a year since the KSG got nerffed and nothing is being done with it, dispite all the complaints which have been made in previous threads, I am starting a new thread because old ones just dies off. So can you please sort it out as far as I can recall Meph said in October last year he will look into it when he has time, as he is on a leave, because of his new born baby (god bless her/her :)), can the new GA please sort this issue out ?

BEH0LD iTz SAM 06-18-2013 01:46 AM

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Posted by romario786 (Post 370562)
This thread is directed at to the Guns Admin. Can you please sort out the KSG and make it worth it's price of 75k, it has been months or perhaps a year since the KSG got nerffed and nothing is being done with it, dispite all the complaints which have been made in previous threads, I am starting a new thread because old ones just dies off. So can you please sort it out as far as I can recall Meph said in October last year he will look into it when he has time, as he is on a leave, because of his new born baby (god bless her/her :)), can the new GA please sort this issue out ?

The KSG was buffed 2 weeks ago, it does 4.5 damage per bullet when upgraded and is the only gun to not have the hit registration time. It's well worth it's price

igotNoStyle 06-18-2013 10:25 AM

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 370605)
The KSG was buffed 2 weeks ago, it does 4.5 damage per bullet when upgraded and is the only gun to not have the hit registration time. It's well worth it's price

I still think(No everyone still think that it is under-powered).. It has a very high freeze rendering its shield useless since the shield only decrease damage by 20-30%(correct me if i'm wrong). A 75K gun should be much stronger than that.

My suggestion is at least decrease the freeze when the shield is on to make it more maneuverable.
Or make the damage at perfect to be 5 per bullet to compensate its high freeze.

The gun is unique and it must be well balanced.

romario786 06-18-2013 11:35 AM

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 370605)
The KSG was buffed 2 weeks ago, it does 4.5 damage per bullet when upgraded and is the only gun to not have the hit registration time. It's well worth it's price

Sorry but the gun is still not worth it's price, iv tested it and the Shield is just useless, in regards to what igotnostyle has said it is all true... - 75k gun does nothing as mentioned on the stats of its description

The shield is absolutely useless, you can get out manuivered and get killed by a ak47 worth 1.5k I think, compare 1.5k gun to a 75k gun which gets owned by a noob/pro.

I was just testing the gun with a sparer and a friend named Khan, he and I both have the KSG, we tried facing the KSG to the starter AK47 and Starter DOUBLE Uzi, and guess what, on both rounds of having each turns on the KSG, both times the KSG got owned by the Starter AK47 and Starter Double Uzi.

Now please explain how does that distinguish the price and the balance of KSG to rest of the guns?

BEH0LD iTz SAM 06-18-2013 11:41 AM

Use it without the shield then, the gun would still be worth the 75k even if it didn't have it, it has a high rate of fire, every bullet that hits does damage instantly, and having the shield is a bonus for if your trying to get away or use it when your on low health to stop yourself from dying. The only difference is, like the new rifle it takes skill to use. If you take the time to learn how to use it you'll find it's an extremely powerful gun.

romario786 06-18-2013 11:47 AM

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 370894)
Use it without the shield then, the gun would still be worth the 75k even if it didn't have it, it has a high rate of fire, every bullet that hits does damage instantly, and having the shield is a bonus for if your trying to get away or use it when your on low health to stop yourself from dying. The only difference is, like the new rifle it takes skill to use. If you take the time to learn how to use it you'll find it's an extremely powerful gun.

Yes, but that gun is not used for spar or for skills, that gun is only unique in the entire game for its shield, when in police they use the KSG they only use it for the riot shield for not getting hurt and charge, same as for iEra when basing. That guns specification is only good for basing not PK'ing or sparring.

Or at least make the shield when your not holding the shield from the front it rests behind you like in reality not completely disapearing in thin pixels, so if anyone shoots you from behind it deals some damage, because frankly speaking the shield is absolute useless and I didn't pay 75k just for a shotgun that does 4.5 damage on a single bullet I have a PBP, and I'm sure every KSG owner will agree to some extent that the Shield and gun is not worth it's price

Shock 06-18-2013 12:23 PM

I don't care about misplaced nastolgia, but I still want to see the original shield functions returned. It's just too cool, recieving no damage at all base on a random percentage. That was epic and the KSG was still beatable if you can hit it enough times.

romario786 06-18-2013 12:47 PM

Yes the KSG shield use to get penetrated by fire damage

igotNoStyle 06-18-2013 02:33 PM

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Posted by BEH0LD iTz SAM (Post 370894)
Use it without the shield then, the gun would still be worth the 75k even if it didn't have it, it has a high rate of fire, every bullet that hits does damage instantly, and having the shield is a bonus for if your trying to get away or use it when your on low health to stop yourself from dying. The only difference is, like the new rifle it takes skill to use. If you take the time to learn how to use it you'll find it's an extremely powerful gun.

No offense but honestly the gun is still under-powered for its price(75k)

The High Fire rate is not enough to compensate for the extremely high freeze.

Well at least reduce the freeze to make it useful in spar.

You may say that the gun is build to take hit and not deal a lot of damage but

as what i observe the shield is not really that useful.

bobo 06-18-2013 03:58 PM

No registration time sounds amazing.

BabyGhost 06-18-2013 04:40 PM

Give the shield a small chance of taking no damage (or about 2 damage) from bullets?

romario786 06-18-2013 04:55 PM

Okay I've been testing KSG all morning in u der ground spar and bases, the Shield has no powers to observe the bullets firing from any direction, there is no percentage of decreasing damage when the shield is on, any gun which shoots you with the riot shield on does full damage not half or any % of it going down, so infact all you have buffed is 0.5 damage extra on each bullet and has taken away the riot shield function off completely.

Now please explain to me how does the KSG gun meet its price of 75k ?

lord greg 06-18-2013 05:33 PM

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Posted by romario786 (Post 370895)
Yes, but that gun is not used for spar or for skills, that gun is only unique in the entire game for its shield, when in police they use the KSG they only use it for the riot shield for not getting hurt and charge, same as for iEra when basing. That guns specification is only good for basing not PK'ing or sparring.

Or at least make the shield when your not holding the shield from the front it rests behind you like in reality not completely disapearing in thin pixels, so if anyone shoots you from behind it deals some damage, because frankly speaking the shield is absolute useless and I didn't pay 75k just for a shotgun that does 4.5 damage on a single bullet I have a PBP, and I'm sure every KSG owner will agree to some extent that the Shield and gun is not worth it's price

Then only use it for basing?

R o g u e 06-18-2013 06:37 PM

One question what does 4.5 damage look like? For say you get shot by a KSG user and you miss one bullet but the other one hit you will it say 45.5/50 Health

BabyGhost 06-18-2013 09:17 PM

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Posted by ReBorn (Post 371040)
One question what does 4.5 damage look like? For say you get shot by a KSG user and you miss one bullet but the other one hit you will it say 45.5/50 Health

Yep. Even standard trash pick used to do decimal damage in the early era stage. It was buffed as there was nearly no point in the decimal damage. KSG has a good reason to have decimal damage. The decimal damage also appears when attacking NPC enemies.


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