Im talking about the APRs, these guns are everywhere now since its the best gun in the game hands down. Its also the most expensive gun in the game. Soon this is going to end up like era where the only gun in competitive play your going to see is the APRs. These guns are seriously OP, even though they are the most expensive. Zone is slowly losing various guns in gun fights and its all boiling down to APRs. The gun needs a huge nerf since it is literally a meat grinder.

What should happen
TAP FIRE REMOVED
i cant stress this enough but this is whats breaking this gun and making it super OP. It gives you a tap fire photon rifle ROF (fast) and makes bullets incredibly hard to dodge along with this you also get a super unfair advantage of one less bullet to kill (yes one bullet makes a HUGE difference).

Clip reduction
the clip of these guns is also what makes them so superior to other guns and dominating games. with the 36 clip on the gun, your dishing out WAY too much damage, in fact its dealing out 270 damage and thats the equivelent to 5 people you can kill in one clip. Unlike most other guns that are fairly competitive that dish out a total of 126 damage (about 2 people). The APRs clip size should be reduced to 12 that way you still get the fast ROF + the high damage but at the price of a very small clip. So if you want to use the most powerful weapons in the game that have the high damage + the high ROF and the lowest time to kill at the expense that you have to learn to make sure that every count counts. This would also seriously cut down on the spam.
The next issue with the clips is they are ruining the point of weapons that have tasks. A great example would be the chaingun. That gun is supposed to be a spam cannon that shoots off a incredible amount of shots. But no thats now the case, the APRs deal more damage, have a slightly lower ROF, and can fire for a much longer time. So a clip reduction at the least to 12 is mandatory.

what stays the same
The damage should stay the same. You paid a lot of money for it so you should be able to have some perks.
The automatic ROF needs to also stay the same. You should definatally have a lower T2K than other guns since this is a pricey gun. However that does not mean you should have no learning curb with this gun to avoid.

have another ghettos bitching thread about weapons.

Bump

Sad I have them and I actually agree with this.....

I think the 12 clip is too low for it, I guess

Hmm I understand because of the obsessive laser rifles having WAY too much length in how big each bullet is.. And they need to keep weapon clips lower and I'm glad they ow have that your ammo supply is unlimited :D

Actually, the laser is just as big a bullet. It's only graphically different..

no its not, you're getting the best weapons statistically in the game and a 12 clip makes it so you can only kill one person making this gun the top dog in one vs one. Also making this gun have its purpose on the battlefield being it specializes in taking down single targets at once very very fast.

thats just tashkin being a herp a derp and forgetting to take the ammo away on weekdays and make it unlimited on weekends.

VIP players have unlimted ammo.

not normal players though

They should on weekends. But they don't.

Normal players get unlimited ammo on the weekends.

tf you smoking? they had unlimited ammo for 1 1/2 weeks

I have bought this gun for the purpose to show its not OP. I have tested it in spar. Here were the results:

- I found that the clip size was a bit much.

- Overall, the gun is worth it for the price. There was one person who beat me with a streamer.

Rather than demanding a nerf, try training with another gun. If you practise enough with that gun, you can beat people with the APR's

Heh.. I've been beaten by a newbie who had a newbie gun (first one you get in the beginning.. :P

the clip size is way to much not a bit much. The ROF is that of a streamer via tapfire making it very hard to dodge in close quarters and you get the less btk making it very good at spamming and a super efficient killer.

second- stop preaching the obvious. Everyone knows if you practice enough with one gun you will be beating others with it.

Third- With everygun there is a learning curb, this being what situation is performs best in and when to use it. as I said, this gun excels in any category you put it under making it OP. Theres no drawbacks, that is what truly makes a gun OP.

Fourth- The guns are OP, you have 0 case on why they are not OP. That aside. The main point of this nerfing is to encourage people to use other guns as zone is slowly falling into the depths of combat like era. This being that the most expensive gun is everywhere. Seriously, have you ever been to a planet of a sumper competitive gang? there will always be one person with an APR. Also notice how all of those "pros" at bases use APRs? Compare to era. Era is the exact same thing as all the competitive gangs have at least 1 bar, along with those basing "pros" a mass majority uses bars.

Fifth- Even more of a reason to nerf them and keep this game away from eras style is the gun gives the exact same advantages that the BAR gave when era was released. This being you have 1 less BTK, a faster (or just as fast as fastest gun) ROF, and a significantly larger clip size than other guns.