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Thallen 03-10-2014 02:17 PM

BRING BACK SPAR HATS
 
and additional hats for PK and BK milestones.

I'm not even going to type a novel on why this would be helpful, because it'd probably be ignored and the reasons seem glaringly obvious.

10k, 20k, 30k, 40k, 50k spar wins
100k, 200k, 300k, 400k, 500k PKs and BKs

It's 15 total hats (and spar hats can even be reused, so it's less than that). I'm pretty sure the graphics team can knock that out in a week. People would immediately idle less and start sparring, PKing, and BKing more.

Why can't you just do it? There's literally no reason you shouldn't do it and plenty of reasons why you should, so why not?
Someone before told me that admins were abusing it and giving them out (manually) which let them give them to friends. I am 100% confident that FP4 or Dusty is capable of scripting a damn NPC that you can walk up to, it checks your stats, and adds the appropriate hat to your account.

If you aren't cool with hats, give out trophies like you do with the seasonal events. Give out gralats, it doesn't matter. Incentivize it so more people do it, please.

PumaD 03-10-2014 03:46 PM

Rewards?

nah

Sicx 03-10-2014 06:00 PM

another idea would be like staking gralats with sparring

Xenthic 03-10-2014 09:08 PM

uh rewards for PK eh idk PK has always been about motivating yourself to PK and PK even more personally I think only me, Michael, Angel and probably a few more idk deserve rewards for Pking that extra mile and still Pking actively whereas most people give up around 100k - 150k.

I got a gold muscular statue of Xor for being my 500000 xD with along a 1k messages in under 15 seconds :o andddd I'm still Pking probably to 1 million idk if there is a reward but I might PK even more due to it being so fun and addictive o.o

I think spar hats should be awarded at 40k wins because they also have gone that extra mile which also gives them an exclusive feeling because only them have reached that and only they deserve it and continued to do what they enjoy.

Baddie kills I'm not sure people would probably fight over bats because they're easy roughly 2k every 3 - 5 hours.

Yeah if not hats trophies would be pretty cool.

Santa Claus 03-10-2014 09:21 PM

No.

Livid 03-10-2014 10:04 PM

First of all no one would easily reach 10k spar wins like the other "pro" sparrers. 100k pks or bks? Dude not many people can make it to 15k not to mention a little too far up.

GOAT 03-11-2014 12:11 AM

lol aww how cute, hey old man you finally made the transition from pc no life loser to an iphone no life loser. congrats you're one of them :D





OT: ya give the people their stat milestone hats but current stats shouldn't count, only the stats acquired after the day in which they make this addition to classic.

Santa Claus 03-11-2014 04:16 AM

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Posted by Livid (Post 458958)
First of all no one would easily reach 10k spar wins like the other "pro" sparrers. 100k pks or bks? Dude not many people can make it to 15k not to mention a little too far up.

even if this is a idea I dont really want to happen I rather make it up to 100k or more.

If people aren't that into pking or killing baddies they should get the hat.
Making it as low as 15k is stupid I know you didn't say to make it 15k but still you are saying to make it lower.
Before it was 40k

twilit 03-11-2014 04:37 AM

no.
Not exactly an advocate for rewards for individual stats. I guess ill give the run-down again: Individual rewards were removed because of abuse; Stats would be abused more than they already are without the motivation. Players shouldnt need the motivation for a linear, quantitative stat; in fact they dont need motivation because spar PK and BK are still popular activities. As time goes on, the people who reach these milestones exponentially grow: staff arent going to keep track of God-knows-how-many-hundred-thousand graal accounts for people who have 10k wins, 100k PK or 100k BK.

Edit: after reading the end of OP, my last comment is unnecessary
You say, "Incentivize it so more people do it." Why is it important for people to make these milestones? It wouldnt promote higher participation rates for these activities; the only people who dont spar pk bk are the role players, who wouldnt bother even with the motivation.

Crono 03-11-2014 08:41 AM

If I was in a position of power I would just host a monthly 1v1 tourney for the top ~25-30 sparrers.

Bubba De Orc 03-11-2014 10:37 AM

Good idea

If it can bring back people from Xenthic from the dead, then why not?

Thallen 03-11-2014 12:24 PM

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Posted by Santa Claus (Post 458949)
No.

that logic and reasoning, thanks for your input

Quote:

Posted by Livid (Post 458958)
First of all no one would easily reach 10k spar wins like the other "pro" sparrers.

there's like 100 people with 10k spar wins so I have no idea what you're talking about
not a single statistic on this game is hard to achieve, it just takes time
I don't really care what the milestone numbers are or whatever, so arguing that point is moot

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Posted by twilit (Post 459061)
Individual rewards were removed because of abuse

that's easily taken care of if staff get off their asses and put measures into place to catch people who boost, and it's already pretty clear who does the boosting when there are public leaderboards so it really isn't nearly as severe of a problem as you make it seem

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Posted by twilit (Post 459061)
staff arent going to keep track of God-knows-how-many-hundred-thousand graal accounts for people who have 10k wins, 100k PK or 100k BK

what
there is no "keeping track" required
you touch an NPC and if you have the required stats, the hat is added to your account

Quote:

Posted by twilit (Post 459061)
It wouldnt promote higher participation rates for these activities

what the hell would make you think that at all
what happens when the GST comes around, the guild spar arenas go from 0-10 people in them to 50+ (both of them) every day leading up to it
all for a ******ed little hat



a competent staff member should take 1 hour out of their day to make this happen so that less people sit around and chat and actually participate in the game
not liking the idea for opinionated or personal reasons doesn't really make sense, I'm suggesting it because it'd make the game more active and lively overall because I guarantee if they announced that spar hats were back today there would be a streak room queue of 20+ immediately

PoeticFolly 03-11-2014 12:54 PM

Spar hats and pk hats are an absolutely great idea. They've been on iera for a while and they're just a really good thing to achieve. If you think they shouldn't be added into classic, I'm not saying your opinion is wrong, but it is.

NeoZX 03-11-2014 12:55 PM

No.

Because everyone else was saying it so..

Thallen 03-11-2014 01:14 PM

Quote:

Posted by Xenthic (Post 458946)
if there is a reward but I might PK even more due to it being so fun and addictive

skipped this reply

ya, I don't need any motivation to keep sparring because I enjoy doing it, but I know it'd encourage other people to do it
everyone who PKs or spars sets personal goals and stuff like that for themselves, and I don't even care about hats but it's nice to have some symbolism of the achievement

IDK, just feels like more people would be interested in playing these parts of the game when you add achievements to them

Quote:

Posted by Crono (Post 459083)
If I was in a position of power I would just host a monthly 1v1 tourney for the top ~25-30 sparrers.

same, first thing I'd do is restructure the spar leaderboard, then add spar/PK hats, then probably organize a singles tournament and some sort of week-long PK tournament where the player with the most kills in that time period gets some kind of prize


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