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MrSimons 04-17-2014 04:15 AM
Rippers Overpowered?...
 
I'd just like to ask if the stats for them have been changed recently.

As of lately I have been playing on my iOS a lot, specifically basing. Now I do not have rippers but it seems like a lot of people do... I have never had any problem with dealing with people with them. Sure it is obvious that they are a more powerful weapon, but I would not say they are overpowered. Unless I am doing something wrong? (Keep in mind I am no way, "good" at Zone. Im pretty bad if you ask me)

So could someone clarify to me that they have not been changed. Or why they are so complained about.

fsh 04-17-2014 04:48 AM
I don't like the spam

Hadi 04-17-2014 04:56 AM
they should reduce the clip to like 16

5hift 04-17-2014 05:16 AM
Make the bullets easier to see.

Same thing goes for the guns in the same store as the AP Rippers.

I've gotta strain my eyes whenever I fight someone using rippers.

Killfun 04-17-2014 05:20 AM
Yea! the bullets are kinda tiny and blend in with the blue flooring that's all over zone

MrSimons 04-17-2014 05:40 AM
Is it really that hard to see bullets? Ripper bullets glow and have a trail behind them dont they?

imSupah 04-17-2014 02:37 PM
They are a tad small making it a bit hard to see to be honest with ya.

Ghettoicedtea 04-17-2014 04:55 PM
actually according to the weapon charts they recived a buff from 6.5 to 7 damage. Dosen't make a massive difference thank god.

Please do not make me explain what makes the rippers OP... Im begging you read one of my rants on the APRs

Bleck3v3 04-17-2014 05:33 PM
3rd fastest gun, 8 damage. Spread transition good, 40 clip, 42,000 Gralats

Ghettoicedtea 04-17-2014 08:20 PM
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Posted by Bleck3v3 (Post 468507)
3rd fastest gun, 8 damage. Spread transition good, 40 clip, 42,000 Gralats
40 clip wtf did that get a buff to because the last i heard it was 36

and this is why they are OP
Ghettos rant alert
Spoiler
What should happen
TAP FIRE REMOVED
i cant stress this enough but this is whats breaking this gun and making it super OP. It gives you a tap fire photon rifle ROF (fast) and makes bullets incredibly hard to dodge along with this you also get a super unfair advantage of one less bullet to kill (yes one bullet makes a HUGE difference).

Clip reduction
the clip of these guns is also what makes them so superior to other guns and dominating games. with the 36 clip on the gun, your dishing out WAY too much damage, in fact its dealing out 270 damage and thats the equivelent to 5 people you can kill in one clip. Unlike most other guns that are fairly competitive that dish out a total of 126 damage (about 2 people). The APRs clip size should be reduced to 12 that way you still get the fast ROF + the high damage but at the price of a very small clip. So if you want to use the most powerful weapons in the game that have the high damage + the high ROF and the lowest time to kill at the expense that you have to learn to make sure that every count counts. This would also seriously cut down on the spam.
The next issue with the clips is they are ruining the point of weapons that have tasks. A great example would be the chaingun. That gun is supposed to be a spam cannon that shoots off a incredible amount of shots. But no thats now the case, the APRs deal more damage, have a slightly lower ROF, and can fire for a much longer time. So a clip reduction at the least to 12 is mandatory.

what stays the same
The damage should stay the same. You paid a lot of money for it so you should be able to have some perks.
The automatic ROF needs to also stay the same. You should definatally have a lower T2K than other guns since this is a pricey gun. However that does not mean you should have no learning curb with this gun to avoid.

have another ghettos bitching thread about weapons


if you can provide an argument on why the gun is not OP, I will prove you wrong.

GenoIndeed 04-18-2014 07:46 AM
Its 7 dmg, 30 clip, fast rof especially when tapped. They are too hard too see in many places and the clip size would be best at 20. They are also too cheap for their power imo.

Rippers annoy the hell outta me since everyone, even noobs just starting off, has them and they require little skill to use, especially paired with a bike.

Bleck3v3 04-18-2014 03:45 PM
I mean't 30 clip my bad

Ghettoicedtea 04-18-2014 03:59 PM
Quote:
Posted by GenoIndeed (Post 468661)
Its 7 dmg, 30 clip, fast rof especially when tapped. They are too hard too see in many places and the clip size would be best at 20. They are also too cheap for their power imo.

Rippers annoy the hell outta me since everyone, even noobs just starting off, has them and they require little skill to use, especially paired with a bike.
12 clip increased ROF to give it a atrocious ROF at the price of reloading every 3 seconds

Bleck3v3 04-18-2014 07:45 PM
Reloading really only depends on how long the gani is and from hat it seems is that the gani is about half a second

Ghettoicedtea 04-18-2014 07:48 PM
Quote:
Posted by Bleck3v3 (Post 468781)
Reloading really only depends on how long the gani is and from hat it seems is that the gani is about half a second
that statement is false, if the reloading system works exactly like eras does, then the gani cuts off. If you had to go through a full gun gani, the reload times in era would be triple what they are now.


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