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Kyle Del. M. H. 04-25-2014 06:20 PM

Idevice room In guild spar
 
If we have an idevice room in guild spar, players in idevice gst could have a place to be prepared for their only genre in gst. :D

twilit 04-26-2014 06:12 AM

no.

Thallen 04-26-2014 07:16 AM

IDK about that but one of the rooms needs to be a streak room

iChronic 04-26-2014 07:57 AM

why? not a lot of people GS these days anyway...

streak room for GS?? LOLLLL, so ridiculous. The most guilds I've ever seen in arena was 2 (5 at the most, but they had like 3-4 players).

Thallen 04-26-2014 08:37 AM

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Posted by iChronic (Post 470375)
The most guilds I've ever seen in arena was 2 (5 at the most, but they had like 3-4 players).

yeah, but you're totally clueless

http://puu.sh/8nVTh.jpg

that's right now at 3:40 AM EST, and there's about another 10-12 people at the bottom of the arena
there are very regularly 50+ people in one room at peak hours on any given day

iChronic 04-26-2014 09:02 AM

k, cool. I dont oppose the idea of an idevice room or a streak room, I just dont think there would be a consistent number of audience attracted to it.

edit:

big fan of GS btw, great alternative to capture the flag. I just wish that they'd add a reward system or something so that more people would play

I like your proposed idea of having that record book for having the most streaks in GS though, it would really increase GS popularity.

The idevice room is nice too, queues would be shorter.

ufoburan 04-26-2014 10:17 AM

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Posted by iChronic (Post 470387)
k, cool. I dont oppose the idea of an idevice room or a streak room, I just dont think there would be a consistent number of audience attracted to it.

edit:

big fan of GS btw, great alternative to capture the flag. I just wish that they'd add a reward system or something so that more people would play

I like your proposed idea of having that record book for having the most streaks in GS though, it would really increase GS popularity.

The idevice room is nice too, queues would be shorter.

Again with sparring rewards???

You have the freaking GST's Why give more rewards for sparring and nothing else? The rewards for towering are farther and fewer in between. As in you normally only get hats,and if done in the right way (not hat chasing) can take a while to get. You can go ahead and say it doesn't take more than 3-4 months to get 1k which is about how often the GST's come around. But if your trying to add rewards for any kind of sparring and not anything else would that not be unbalancing an all ready crappy rewards system? What about the Towerers? The PKers? The Bug collectors?

I'm not saying it wouldn't be nice to get incentives or make a league or have "seasons" so there is more reasons for teams to spar in between GST's.

OT: I think it would be okay to add more rooms to the battle arena for sparring. I don't think it really needs it tho. Just seems to me when I go in the battle arena its not that crowded and the wait in the que's aren't that long. Personally I would like to see some kind of multi-person survivor type spar where its like 10 ppl and your on your own trying to be the last one standing. Just something with sparring that has other elements added to it thats not the standard one V one format.

iChronic 04-26-2014 02:49 PM

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Posted by ufoburan (Post 470391)
What about the Towerers? The PKers? The Bug collectors?

Idk what you're trying to say, but they have awards for towering. They originally had hats for sparrers and pkers too. Bug catching is not really competitive and exchanging bugs for money is kind of the award.

When I said reward system I meant adding the win and lose ratio to GS. Idk why I said reward, I think I meant a better point system or just an addition to the current point system.

Comyt 04-26-2014 10:55 PM

none of the ideas described in this thread should be added to guildspar. i really shouldn't need to explain this. win/loss ratios and streak records/rooms should not even be considered as guildspar is insanely inactive. UNTIL one month before GST starts. go to guildspar a week after GST is over, you will see nobody there.

Thallen 04-27-2014 03:02 AM

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Posted by Comyt (Post 470536)
guildspar is insanely inactive UNTIL one month before GST starts

not true, been 40-50 people in there every day for weeks now

I don't care too much for what happens to guild sparring right now though, it's fine how it is but it's inconvenient to be a good team and to have to wait 10 minutes to queue into the arena, and then you get placed against the one team of two noobs dressed as kittens instead of one of the other four teams that could actually make a nice match

then you have to organize that everyone go to another arena, and that arena is at Belle where guild spars aren't even ranked, so your performance in actual competitive spars aren't even weighted into your GS score, which affects the outcome of the GST
sweet

ain't even mad though, just a small change that would make GS less time-consuming and more fluid, been having fun GSing lately

Comyt 04-27-2014 05:47 AM

complaining about wait times is kind of stupid, just ask a guild to go to the other room (which has zero people) with you.

twilit 04-27-2014 06:38 AM

Dont see the need for a streak GS besides boosting quick points from noobs. The queue system just needs to be smarter to match guilds based on number of members so there's 2v2 rounds and 5v5 rounds etc and you dont waste your time getting stuck with the same 5v2 round.

Thallen 04-27-2014 11:03 AM

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Posted by Comyt (Post 470586)
complaining about wait times is kind of stupid, just ask a guild to go to the other room (which has zero people) with you

it doesn't always have zero people in it, and at least half of the that time any two guilds attempt to do that they end up getting followed
try winning more than 95% of your guild spars and then you'll probably see more of a need for a streaking system, it'd be nice to finally be able to spar until you actually lose

claiming that it'd assist in boosting makes close to no sense, the entire point of a streak is being able to continue until you lose
with the way it is right now you can just dodge people in the queue on purpose or even ACCIDENTALLY "boost" by being repeatedly matched with the random guild of 2 noobs that happens to queue at the same time as you
nobody wants to be forced to spar that every time

but again, the overall outcome of GS scores and anything in the grand scheme of GSing won't be changed much regardless of what changes are or aren't implemented, so it's not too big of a deal either way

BTW, come to the GS arenas if you are reading this thread and you don't already, they are really active lately

Comyt 04-27-2014 02:44 PM

a streak system would only benefit the streaking guild and piss off everyone else. if you arent streaking and theres 10 guilds in line, youre waiting twice as long. this is how to completely destroy the guildsparring experience. another genius idea.

i'm only bringing up boosting because with a streak system people will probably stupidly ask for a streak record.

Thallen 04-27-2014 04:08 PM

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Posted by Comyt (Post 470630)
a streak system would only benefit the streaking guild and piss off everyone else

oh yeah, I forgot that I'm on the www.graalians.com forums, where every idea that seems to benefit and reward people for being competitive, winning, and progressing in the game in any way is frowned upon because we're all bad at this game and we're not into the idea of being encouraged to be better than the next person
everyone here is equal and we love giving out the participation award and pat on the back
cringing

"it's not fair because then teams will win a lot and get to streak a lot"
only on Graal

you probably didn't even consider that the counter-argument to that is "a non-streak room would only benefit the guilds who aren't capable of streaking"
but yeah

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Posted by Comyt (Post 470630)
if you arent streaking and theres 10 guilds in line, youre waiting twice as long

here's the solution
wait for it
take a deep breath
open your mind and get ready to digest this
here it comes

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Posted by Thallen (Post 470365)
one of the rooms needs to be a streak room

walk to the other room
just like every player in singles sparring has done for the past several years if they don't want to streak in the streak rooms

and blah blah, boosting, blah blah, records, anyone who actively spars surely has a good idea of who would hold the records so who cares, boring subject
at this point I'm pretty convinced that when it comes to the subject of sparring, nobody on this entire forum has confidence or a competitive attitude, therefore I should probably just not participate in these discussions because I'm completely alienated in that sense


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