"Guild Chat" Permission
 

Please:
http://puu.sh/aPpzq/85e1c2a95d.jpg

I know it probably looks like I'm trying to make the game antisocial as hell with the in-game chat visibility thing and now this, but I'm pretty sure there is no downside to having this permission added as long as it is checked by default.

"You shouldn't add people to your guild if you don't want to see their chat!"
I agree, but until staff change the way that towering works the meta will include temporary/noob recruits. It 100% shouldn't, but to compete in the current towering format you simply need to do it.

"You can just block them!"
I agree, I'm just trying to save others the headache.

It's just a quality-of-life change that I wouldn't mind seeing and wouldn't be bothered at all if it wasn't added. It would make towering and guild sparring a little more tolerable, for some of us at least.

Will only the leader be able to change it?

I'm pretty sure the way that guilds work in general only allow the leader to change any of these permissions, so yes.

Oh, gosh, sorry, I goofed. x.x I thought there was an "edit members' rights" right, sorry.

What would happen to the person who have no rights to guild chat when they try to chat? An annoying message pops up, saying "You do not have permission to use guild chat"?

The guild chat button simply does not show? Seems the most logical to me.

I dont like this idea using noobs for towering then kicking them is bad enough, Build a decent tower team dont rely on noobs, problem solved

Right, because new players can't enjoy or be helpful at towers?

The "noob recruiting" thing is popular, and always will be popular, because staff refuse to make it illegal in any way. You act like it's entirely a bad thing, when I'm sure there are many new players who actually appreciate the opportunity to tower with a guild.
I've already suggested 100 times in the past that staff add the requirement of only allowing someone who has had a tag for 24 hours to enter a tower, but it's not happening. We deal with it and adjust accordingly.

Not to mention, you shouldn't view this as something negative. I'd have been using it in my tower guilds to remove the guild chat permission from everyone who isn't a leader or a temporary leader, because I personally feel like it'd allow my guild to function better. Then, sometimes, I'd love to guild spar with people but not constantly deal with their spam in guild chat. If it's my guild, shouldn't I be able to control that?

Nope.

A guild is a community. Without communication there is no community. What I would like to see is a greater visibility of guilds.

I disagree completely. Classic is all about the community which guilds pretty much form the entire skeleton of. If a player in your guild is abusing the guild chat then it's up to you to kick them from the guild / deal with it however else you think is best. You agreed that noob recruiting is bad and needs to be dealt with, but such an option as this would only encourage it.

It may increase your "quality of life" as a guild leader (though honestly I have no desire to be a part of a guild where a guild leader would even consider using this) but it only hurts the community as a whole, making it harder for new players to become involved in the community and possibly even turning them away from the game altogether.

How is a new player supposed to enjoy towering when they can't even participate in one of the most important aspects when defending and attacking: communication?

You're basically just using them by recruiting them, telling them to sit somewhere and then making them unable to even talk to anyone in the guild chat. I don't know what your definition of "fun" is, but that definitely is not fun.

This idea LOL!
I kinda support it... but then again theres really no logical purpose. Only guild owners can edit members' powers; if a member is being annoying in guild chat, i would just kick and tell my guild's other leaders not to recruit the certain person again. Basically, my logic is: if a member is being annoying in your guild's guild chat, then there is no reason to keep him in your guild.

What I would like to see is the "Guild Chat Button" option not only hiding the chat box to send guild messages, but also block all guild messages from being received. Very useful if youre having a long PM conversation in the midst of guild spam.

Was gonna say this. Much better alternative imo

This just sounds unfair, its better to stick with kicking or blocking. Then next thing you know
Thallen: Wow who didnt say he was at the flag?
Player: "You can not use guild chat"
Thallen: I bet it was that guy
Player: (Clearly saying NO I swear I was saying FLAG) " You can not use guild chat"