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Joshacorn Parze 11-18-2014 10:33 PM

Hacking/Macro
 



Ok ima go through this in dot points
  • Make your jobs better.(Don't make the rocks respawn in the same spot every 5 seconds, thats asking for people to macro)
  • How is a gun 300 gold? you get $10 from one gold mined. Make it pay more.
  • Mining and panning can both have a macro used on them.
  • I was not aware macros were illegal. You didn't state it anywhere.
  • You could have givin me a warning before you jailed me.
  • I just want to have fun, without money you can't do much but pk. But pk sucks with a bad gun.

Distorted 11-18-2014 10:36 PM

It's common sense macros are illegal. They shouldn't have to restate it.

Joshacorn Parze 11-18-2014 10:37 PM

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Posted by Distorted (Post 517809)
It's common sense macros are illegal. They shouldn't have to restate it.

So why did they have to in era?

Distorted 11-18-2014 10:38 PM

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Posted by Joshacorn Parze (Post 517810)
So why did they have to in era?

Because they have players like you.

Joshacorn Parze 11-18-2014 10:39 PM

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Posted by Distorted (Post 517812)
Because they have players like you.

You do realise to mine the amount of rocks i got it took about 20 hours.(around 5k) Do you think that guy with 15k rocks mined did it legit?

Distorted 11-18-2014 10:42 PM

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Posted by Joshacorn Parze (Post 517814)
You do realise to mine the amount of rocks i got it took about 20 hours.(around 5k) Do you think that guy with 15k rocks mined did it legit?

He was probably faster than your macro.

Joshacorn Parze 11-18-2014 10:43 PM

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Posted by Distorted (Post 517818)
He was probably faster than your macro.

So your saying he Mined for about 35 hours since it has been released?

Distorted 11-18-2014 10:43 PM

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Posted by Joshacorn Parze (Post 517819)
So your saying he Mined for about 35 hours since it has been released?

ITS PROBABLY FASTER TO NOT USE THE MACRO

iMask 11-18-2014 10:47 PM

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Posted by Joshacorn Parze;517807[*
I was not aware macros were illegal. You didn't state it anywhere.[/LIST]

Have some common sense. Think about what a macro is actually doing. It's considered hacking.

Distorted 11-18-2014 10:59 PM

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Posted by iMask (Post 517825)
Have some common sense. Think about what a macro is actually doing. It's considered hacking.

This guy gets it.

Nelo 11-18-2014 11:20 PM

Is taking advantage of your 6 year old sister's desire to play graal to make money by mining legal?

Meph 11-18-2014 11:36 PM

First off, I want to commend you for your honesty.
Most people who get jailed categorically deny it.

Thank you for not lying.

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Posted by Joshacorn Parze (Post 517807)
You could have givin me a warning before you jailed me.

Your jail is less than 5 hours long.

That's nothing.
Take this as your warning- it won't be so generous next time.

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Posted by Joshacorn Parze (Post 517807)
Mining and panning can both have a macro used on them.

Given the right coding, even sparring could be macroed.

Macroing is impossible to avoid.
Especially for player jobs, since they're usually repetitive.

Even if the rocks randomly spawned, a macro could do an image search for those rocks, execute the mining commands until the rock is disappeared, then repeat the process to find another rock.

The only way to decrease the macroers would be to make the job more complex, as it would eliminate "newbie macroers" who don't know more advanced macroing.

And even then, it's not guaranteed.
People would eventually create macros for it, and distribute them.
The only guarantee that would come of making the job more complex is that the "legit" people would suffer.

We shouldn't have to make our game more difficult because of the bad apples.

Fortunately, as you have generously demonstrated, macroers are easy to catch.

I'd wager that you were caught because a player realized that you unresponsive, and were repeating the same actions (slamming away at a rock spawn point even when it's not there is pretty obvious).

That player then used the 'Report' tab, an admin warped to you to investigate, and when you remained unresponsive, you were jailed.

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Posted by Joshacorn Parze (Post 517807)
I just want to have fun, without money you can't do much but pk. But pk sucks with a bad gun.

Hey man,
I did a 26 spar winning streak last night, on a trial account, with a Peacekeeper against mostly Repeating Rifles.

I had a blast.

Granted, that was in the Streak Spar room, where the walk speed is increased and you can dodge bullets, but still- I didn't pay a dime for it.

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Posted by Distorted (Post 517821)
ITS PROBABLY FASTER TO NOT USE THE MACRO

Distorted is absolutely correct.

If you had a simple macro that repeatedly presses the D button, not only were you absurdly obvious, but you were absurdly inefficient.

This limited you to one rock.
A good chunk of your macro's time was spent pounding away at the dirt, waiting for the rock to respawn.

Meanwhile, somebody with a brain (or a better macro) has no down-time.
Every time they complete a rock, they simply go to another one.

Admiral 11-18-2014 11:41 PM

this guys obviously never heard of grinding before

Shiz 11-18-2014 11:48 PM

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Posted by Joshacorn Parze (Post 517814)
You do realise to mine the amount of rocks i got it took about 20 hours.(around 5k) Do you think that guy with 15k rocks mined did it legit?

I actually mined 2k in a day so It's possible if you just "no-life" it.

#GetOnMyLevel

mithos 11-19-2014 12:13 AM

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Posted by ShizGodsu (Post 517850)
I actually mined 2k in a day so It's possible if you just "no-life" it.

#GetOnMyLevel

Only 2k o o? That's only like an hour for me to get.


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