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Aguzo 04-29-2016 07:39 AM

What do you think about quick spars?
 
If you feel like you have a better way to make quick spar rooms quicker, share below. Mine is just a theory, of what I see somewhat possible. Let me know if there is something you don't like, besides me.

How many of you feel like the quick rooms are too slow? Sometimes, I just want to get into a match as quickly as possible. I don't like to wait 5-10 minutes between spars. What do you guys think?

I think this could be a good example as to how devs can implement a quick spar, but it's just a theory.

So for crab chance, when there are a certain number of players in the building, the player limit is reached, and the next person to enter the building, enters a different room with no people.

Each arena would have a limit of 2 people, and the next person to join, enters the next room.

Wondering if this could somehow be used to make quick spars.

So, you have your room. You can see how many players are inside.
http://i.imgur.com/OqEuO0z.png


Once inside, you will be in the waiting room. Here you can get ready for your spar. You can just jump right in if you want to. You have an exit to the right.
http://i.imgur.com/VD7QPkj.png


Once you enter the arena, you will be automatically queued, and you can't leave the queue, since it will be locked. This makes people not be able to avoid matches, and selective spar.
http://i.imgur.com/eFh9aty.png

The streak room will still remain, for those who like to chat with friends and what not, while waiting for their match.

Red 04-29-2016 08:22 AM

fair idea, over exaggeration on the amount of people who would use this room and you forgot the no option once again.

Sardon 04-29-2016 08:38 AM

if you don't have much time but want to entertain urself you shouldn't be on graal.
You should be ****posting on graalians and checking the time.

Aguzo 04-29-2016 08:43 AM

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Posted by ReD s. (Post 700162)
fair idea, over exaggeration on the amount of people who would use this room and you forgot the no option once again.

I feel like there would be that many people in the room, especially on weekends.

1st option is "I wouldn't mind", doesn't hurt for quick spars to actually be quick.
2nd option "Yes!", you really want to be able to quick spar, since you definitely see quick spars as slow.

alexx 04-29-2016 09:58 AM

This isn't a bad idea but this won't stop selective sparrers from selective sparring. I mean they still have the option to queue or not and they can easily view people's profiles and see there records to make a judgement, also people would just log off and back on to Evad the "locked" queue all together. I don't like the idea of having a new room every 2 people join a queue though I think the max should be 6 at least. I don't think people will want to get lost in a maze of spar rooms. But I do like the idea of having rooms with maybe 6 people queued in it max.

Red 04-29-2016 10:21 AM

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Posted by Aguzo (Post 700165)
I feel like there would be that many people in the room, especially on weekends.

1st option is "I wouldn't mind", doesn't hurt for quick spars to actually be quick.
2nd option "Yes!", you really want to be able to quick spar, since you definitely see quick spars as slow.

I wouldn't mind isn't the same as "no"

Aguzo 04-29-2016 10:22 AM

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Posted by alexx (Post 700171)
This isn't a bad idea but this won't stop selective sparrers from selective sparring.

If they can't see who they will fight, and queue is locked, then they can't selective spar.

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Posted by alexx (Post 700171)
I mean they still have the option to queue or not and they can easily view people's profiles and see there records to make a judgement.

They don't. The queue is locked, once you enter the arena, past the first room. You auto-join, so you can't wait for your opponent to come in, and decide whether you want to spar that person, can't do it. All you can do is enter, decide whether you want to spar, get ready and go through the left entrance, or don't want to spar, and exit through the right.

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Posted by alexx (Post 700171)
also people would just log off and back on to Evad the "locked" queue all together.

You can't evade a spar. If you log off, then your opponent wins. If you leave before anyone enters the room with you, then you aren't really avoiding any match.

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Posted by alexx (Post 700171)
I don't like the idea of having a new room every 2 people join a queue though I think the max should be 6 at least.

It's to be able to join a match as fast as possible, without having to wait in lines.

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Posted by alexx (Post 700171)
I don't think people will want to get lost in a maze of spar rooms.

What maze? If a room isn't being used, then it just resets. Crab chance.

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Posted by alexx (Post 700171)
But I do like the idea of having rooms with maybe 6 people queued in it max.

The point is to not see your opponents, and getting a match as quickly as possible.

Livid 04-29-2016 11:29 AM

Its not a bad idea, I just dont know how it would be like. I do want to do quicker spars rather than waiting all damn day if the mixed room is empty.

Fulgore 04-29-2016 02:24 PM

The fact that there's not a "no" option is stupid, regardless of what I think of the idea.

Aguzo 04-29-2016 05:00 PM

Just a theory, since I've seen crab chance work like this.

Alexmo 04-29-2016 09:48 PM

Hey I have a better idea why not just remove the spar rooms all together and add a button in the menu to queue you with people with similar stats

Aguzo 04-29-2016 10:13 PM

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Posted by Alexmo (Post 700361)
Hey I have a better idea why not just remove the spar rooms all together and add a button in the menu to queue you with people with similar stats

Would be nice, but not enough people.

qes 04-30-2016 09:09 PM

I think 1vs1 spar is fine the way it is... i just think they need to add more statistics for it. What would be cool is if you can't spar in quick rooms if your in the top 50 leaderboard... but then again that would lead to amateur sparrers being upset that they can never win again. Idk

Aguzo 04-30-2016 09:14 PM

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Posted by qes (Post 700728)
I think 1vs1 spar is fine the way it is... i just think they need to add more statistics for it. What would be cool is if you can't spar in quick rooms if your in the top 50 leaderboard... but then again that would lead to amateur sparrers being upset that they can never win again. Idk

Sometimes there are only 2-3 people in the streak room, while there are 10+ in each sideroom. I'd rather spar different people, than the same 2 over and over. Then again, anytime that I ever enter a sideroom, people just start leaving. Don't want to spar the same 2 people in streakroom 20 times, and can't spar in siderooms without everyone leaving...

That's really the only reason why I would like a blind queue. I don't have to wait 5 minutes in-between my wins, and people won't leave.

qes 04-30-2016 09:36 PM

Blind que is dumb, theres like 2-10 good sparrers sparring at one time and 10 amateurs and 20 noobs. Pro sparrers in a blind que would walk away with 10-1 ratio's and legendary sparrers would walk away with 20-1. To be honest it sounds dumb, streak room is good because all good sparrers know to spar there and no-where else


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