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Narcosis 05-25-2016 06:21 PM

Ladybugs (and other bug issues)
 
For some reason ladybugs are only selling for 8 gralats now. I know that has to be a mistake because it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. So, please get that fixed.

Also, bees still aren't spawning. Since their value was destroyed, there's no reason they shouldn't be spawning. I've brought this up before. Are bees going the way of spiders? I just want to know if them not spawning is intentional. Because it seems much more likely that no one remembered to put them back after they were removed for the winter (given that in the past, they spawned through all seasons).

wanderer 05-25-2016 06:53 PM

I do hope that nerfing current methods of getting bugs means we will get some new methods in the close future

Narcosis 05-25-2016 07:00 PM

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Posted by wanderer (Post 708052)
I do hope that nerfing current methods of getting bugs means we will get some new methods in the close future

Well why were ladybugs nerfed in the first place? Was there some kind of ladybug farming method I wasn't aware of that people were taking advantage of? (I haven't been very active lately)

I don't get it. That's why I assume it was a mistake.

I thought maybe they were nerfing the prices of all the bugs across the board, but all the other prices are the same. Just ladybugs. I'm very confused.

Coco 05-25-2016 07:04 PM

Ladybug prices dropped because they were spawning like crazy for some reason yesterday. People were collecting hundreds of them in a matter of minutes.

Some might say that they kind of.... bugged out... *buh dum tss*

Dusty 05-25-2016 07:04 PM

Ladybugs were spawning out of control and the bug spawning system is too broken right now to focus on overhauling it, so until spawning is fixed the prices were lowered. It wasn't uncommon to enter some levels and find about 20 ladybugs flying around.

Same reason roaches are completely gone now as well.

Coco 05-25-2016 07:05 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 708058)
Ladybugs were spawning out of control and the bug spawning system is too broken right now to focus on overhauling it, so until spawning is fixed the prices were lowered. It wasn't uncommon to enter some levels and find about 20 ladybugs flying around.

Same reason roaches are completely gone now as well.

Just say they were bugging out.

*buh dum tss*

wanderer 05-25-2016 07:06 PM

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Posted by Narcosis (Post 708055)
Well why were ladybugs nerfed in the first place? Was there some kind of ladybug farming method I wasn't aware of that people were taking advantage of? (I haven't been very active lately)

I don't get it. That's why I assume it was a mistake.

I thought maybe they were nerfing the prices of all the bugs across the board, but all the other prices are the same. Just ladybugs. I'm very confused.

a lot of people started catching ladybugs, those who saved them for the day they were worth x1.5 made from 50-200k. it was probably the most efficient method to gain gralats, especially for the few days that their spawn rate was increased by a lot.

Narcosis 05-25-2016 07:15 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 708058)
Ladybugs were spawning out of control and the bug spawning system is too broken right now to focus on overhauling it, so until spawning is fixed the prices were lowered. It wasn't uncommon to enter some levels and find about 20 ladybugs flying around.

Ohh okay. I figured something like that must have happened.

Thank you Dusty and Coco for explaining it.

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Same reason roaches are completely gone now as well.
Oh no, roaches are completely gone? Dammit Dusty, I use them in my house for furniture purposes. And I recently sold my 80-some roaches (it was roach day and I needed gralats). I never would have sold them had I known they'd be removed. Ugh, this is what bothers me.

Would it be possible to return these bugs (roaches, bees, ladybugs.. spiders?) to the game and simply just make them un-sellable? (Maybe categorize them differently from the current bugs of the same type) For those of us that just use them for house-design purposes?

Pleeeaaase? As long as they can't be sold, there's no harm if any of them bug out again. *ba dum tss*

mithos 05-25-2016 07:26 PM

Will the prices be fixed once the ladybug system is fixed?

Macbeth 05-25-2016 07:48 PM

Glad I sold my ladybugs before they reduced the amount for trading them in

Dusty 05-25-2016 08:10 PM

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Posted by Narcosis (Post 708061)
Ohh okay. I figured something like that must have happened.

Thank you Dusty and Coco for explaining it.



Oh no, roaches are completely gone? Dammit Dusty, I use them in my house for furniture purposes. And I recently sold my 80-some roaches (it was roach day and I needed gralats). I never would have sold them had I known they'd be removed. Ugh, this is what bothers me.

Would it be possible to return these bugs (roaches, bees, ladybugs.. spiders?) to the game and simply just make them un-sellable? (Maybe categorize them differently from the current bugs of the same type) For those of us that just use them for house-design purposes?

Pleeeaaase? As long as they can't be sold, there's no harm if any of them bug out again. *ba dum tss*

There is harm when there are hundreds of them and they don't despawn, sadly.

Narcosis 05-25-2016 08:24 PM

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Posted by Dusty (Post 708077)
There is harm when there are hundreds of them and they don't despawn, sadly.

Okay, last idea; Let us buy these bugs? (at a price that's double what they're worth on a 1.5x day, so absolutely no profit can be made).

Throw in an NPC somewhere in the railroad caves that sells the bugs that no longer spawn due to these issues. It can just be temporary. Even if he's just there for a month. Just to give people who want these bugs for house decor-purposes a chance to buy them if they so choose, given the fact that they were abruptly removed because of spawning issues.

I know I'm not the only one who would really appreciate this.

wanderer 05-25-2016 08:35 PM

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Posted by Narcosis (Post 708081)
Okay, last idea; Let us buy these bugs? (at a price that's double what they're worth on a 1.5x day, so absolutely no profit can be made).

Throw in an NPC somewhere in the railroad caves that sells the bugs that no longer spawn due to these issues. It can just be temporary. Even if he's just there for a month. Just to give people who want these bugs for house decor-purposes a chance to buy them if they so choose, given the fact that they were abruptly removed because of spawning issues.

I know I'm not the only one that would really appreciate this.

sell something that is supposed to be obtained by doing a certain activity and is more of a trophy rather than a decorative furniture item? doesn't sound like a solid idea to me. on the other hand, I would LOVE to see a way to display bugs in a stationary form rather than set them free in your house. like, a jar, or a frame of some sort.

http://i.imgur.com/5zcftjX.jpg

Narcosis 05-25-2016 08:47 PM

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Posted by wanderer (Post 708084)
sell something that is supposed to be obtained by doing a certain activity and is more of a trophy rather than a decorative furniture item? doesn't sound like a solid idea to me. on the other hand, I would LOVE to see a way to display bugs in a stationary form rather than set them free in your house. like, a jar, or a frame of some sort.

I'm only talking about the bugs that were recently and abruptly removed. And some people (like myself) do use bugs as "decorative furniture". Yes, there are rare bugs that are indeed usually displayed as "trophies". I'm talking about roaches (as well as ladybugs and bees, but mainly roaches), one of the most common bugs in the game, and a very useful bug for house-design purposes (example: placing them around food, giving the impression it's been sitting out for a while).

And regarding ladybugs; I currently use the lava-themed house. And I have a section that's full of grass, water, and wildlife. And I use certain bugs to help depict that (ladybugs being one of them).

Those are just a couple examples as to how some bugs are in fact useable for house design purposes.

Edit - Okay so I didn't realize ladybugs were still spawning. I just assumed they'd have been removed. Any chance you could put roaches and bees back for a limited time at least? If ladybugs are still spawning despite this recent incident, then why are bees and roaches gone? (As I recall, this over-spawning incident happened once with bees, but that was only because someone tweaked the code wrong, and their value was hugely nerfed anyway. And I don't know what happened with roaches, but they had been working fine for a long time, so.. c'mon!)

Alexmo 05-25-2016 09:27 PM

So well is this a sign for fishing to be added


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