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MisterFace 04-26-2017 01:03 AM

how 2 art?
 
I want to learn to draw. I dont think draw is the correct term, because I want to do digital art. I love on those remix songs the thumbnail is some cool drawing. Thats what I want to do

example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80AlC3LaPqQ

Chidelac 04-26-2017 06:52 AM

It depends, how proficient are you at drawing already?

MisterFace 04-27-2017 01:08 AM

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Posted by Chidelac (Post 779164)
It depends, how proficient are you at drawing already?

terrible. I took art for 2 years but that didnt help. The teacher was awesome but didnt teach much.

Chidelac 04-27-2017 03:03 PM

Art lessons are a great assistance, but if you're looking to improve and create your own style, that's something that has to come out of your own initiative.

Draw often and draw what interests you, explore what works and what doesn't.
Also, be prepared to make rejects that make you want to quit. Happens to every artist, but they pick up their pens again after awhile because they're masochists

TWIZ 04-27-2017 07:48 PM

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Posted by Chidelac (Post 779384)
Art lessons are a great assistance, but if you're looking to improve and create your own style, that's something that has to come out of your own initiative.

Draw often and draw what interests you, explore what works and what doesn't.
Also, be prepared to make rejects that make you want to quit. Happens to every artist, but they pick up their pens again after awhile because they're masochists

That's a great analogy

slyde 05-01-2017 06:09 PM

lol I feel the way you feel when you saw those cool scenic images on those videos, they're really nice. I actually tried replicating one, failed miserably. You can try replicating it because thats how artist start through references, but don't expect to finish it in one day with great results.

I think you should look into painting traditionally, because most of those images use textured paint style with little to no lines, idk what the term is. But since buying art supplies can be expensive just try using paint brushes digitally, with different types of strokes and all that stuff. Depending on the program, I use Sai, you can change the setting of the brushes very important in painting.

Once you get into it more and get the hang of it, making your own scenic stuff, look into color theory, using colors that go well together to create emotion or feeling like cool or warm colors kind of thing. And some 1 or 2 point perspectives to finish it off.

Long story short, keep experimenting and practicing.

Dusty 05-01-2017 06:45 PM

Digital art is just a different outcome of a different medium. Knowledge of art itself can be applied to all mediums. Practice with a pencil and paper will help your digital art skills. The only thing that changes is your knowledge to apply your art skills to different mediums. Knowledge of lighting, shading, volume, anatomy, composition... they will all help your digital art. Even if you practice on paper.

Take classes if you can. Art classes. And invest a lot... and I mean a lot of time into it. You know those "naturally amazing gifted artists" people see and complain how easy they have it because they're naturally talented? Nope. They just spent way more time than others practicing. Talent only gives you sort of a boost in picking things up faster, but where people fall short is they're not willing to invest the time to get better. Drawing something once a week will not turn you into an amazing artist. Drawing every single day for an hour+ will.

Afterwards, get a tablet and a drawing program and practice. Read tutorials on how to use said programs... you know, brush settings and the like and learn your way around.

MisterFace 05-03-2017 12:43 AM

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Posted by slyde (Post 780047)
lol I feel the way you feel when you saw those cool scenic images on those videos, they're really nice. I actually tried replicating one, failed miserably. You can try replicating it because thats how artist start through references, but don't expect to finish it in one day with great results.

I think you should look into painting traditionally, because most of those images use textured paint style with little to no lines, idk what the term is. But since buying art supplies can be expensive just try using paint brushes digitally, with different types of strokes and all that stuff. Depending on the program, I use Sai, you can change the setting of the brushes very important in painting.

Once you get into it more and get the hang of it, making your own scenic stuff, look into color theory, using colors that go well together to create emotion or feeling like cool or warm colors kind of thing. And some 1 or 2 point perspectives to finish it off.

Long story short, keep experimenting and practicing.

I'll try out painting and the Sai program.

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Posted by Dusty (Post 780051)
Digital art is just a different outcome of a different medium. Knowledge of art itself can be applied to all mediums. Practice with a pencil and paper will help your digital art skills. The only thing that changes is your knowledge to apply your art skills to different mediums. Knowledge of lighting, shading, volume, anatomy, composition... they will all help your digital art. Even if you practice on paper.

Take classes if you can. Art classes. And invest a lot... and I mean a lot of time into it. You know those "naturally amazing gifted artists" people see and complain how easy they have it because they're naturally talented? Nope. They just spent way more time than others practicing. Talent only gives you sort of a boost in picking things up faster, but where people fall short is they're not willing to invest the time to get better. Drawing something once a week will not turn you into an amazing artist. Drawing every single day for an hour+ will.

Afterwards, get a tablet and a drawing program and practice. Read tutorials on how to use said programs... you know, brush settings and the like and learn your way around.

I took art classes but the teacher wasnt exactly great. I've been practicing on and off, I hope I'll actually stick with it this time.

TWIZ 05-03-2017 04:16 AM

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Posted by MisterFace (Post 780244)
I'll try out painting and the Sai program.



I took art classes but the teacher wasnt exactly great. I've been practicing on and off, I hope I'll actually stick with it this time.

Mehhhh teachers are overrated. Once you understand principles and rules in art, all you need is practice. A teacher can't teach practice.

One thing, explore to find the medium and subject/composition of your liking (and it might be very specific, too). For example, I like to draw with anything, really. But I'm not all enthusiastic. However, when I get my hands on a nice ebony pencil as black as can be, along with a fresh white eraser -- woooo wee! I just love those low lights! In particular I love to do portraits.

Chidelac 05-03-2017 10:57 AM

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Posted by TWIZ (Post 780291)
Mehhhh teachers are overrated. Once you understand principles and rules in art, all you need is practice. A teacher can't teach practice.

This. You can have all the classes you want but an analytical mind won't help your hand replicate what you see in your mind, only relentless practice will build your ability to do that. Classes are made to be applied hand-in-hand with actual sketching practice, a sort of extra assistance. you cant take 200 art classes and then expect to draw flawlessly.

Also, tools dont make the artist, either. You can have an expensive setup like mine, but it wont help if you dont know the basic principles of drawing. Even I admit that with my gear, there are many, many artists here with more ability than me.

MisterFace 05-04-2017 10:58 PM

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Posted by Chidelac (Post 780327)
This. You can have all the classes you want but an analytical mind won't help your hand replicate what you see in your mind, only relentless practice will build your ability to do that. Classes are made to be applied hand-in-hand with actual sketching practice, a sort of extra assistance. you cant take 200 art classes and then expect to draw flawlessly.

Also, tools dont make the artist, either. You can have an expensive setup like mine, but it wont help if you dont know the basic principles of drawing. Even I admit that with my gear, there are many, many artists here with more ability than me.

Do you know of any online classes i can take just to understand the basics? like mediums, styles etc.


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