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Rokar* 03-22-2018 08:00 PM

Delay/Lag concerns in spar
 
lol spar is just guessing where to hit now adays... spar machine broke

McCullough 03-22-2018 10:28 PM

I moved to Michigan, U.S from Dublin, Ireland to experience less delay. (Not the main reason chill out) Now there are simply too many people around that are sparring that are from foreign countries. I don't enjoy sparring anymore.

Westbrook Graal 03-22-2018 10:33 PM

Dont blame delayers they have no control over their delay and they experience it too. Blame those who fail to fix the problem causing delay to exist in the first place

Saeed 03-22-2018 11:18 PM

Blame yourself for not being able to predict dayyers.
The problem with spar us lag+lag spikes, we gave developers a lot of suggestions how to not allow laggers spar but they decided not to apply those suggestions. They want lag to be apart of spar just like its a part of the game.

Fulgore 03-22-2018 11:37 PM

get good = the long standing rule for all games since the beginning of time

Rusix 03-22-2018 11:52 PM

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Posted by Westbrook Graal (Post 807820)
Dont blame delayers they have no control over their delay and they experience it too. Blame those who fail to fix the problem causing delay to exist in the first place

I don't think you understand...that one does not simply "fix" delay. If it was possible I would do it years ago so I can actually do things online.

Delay and lag will happen regardless, even if everyone was American. Because simply that's not exactly how Wi-Fi really works it doesn't matter if you're from a foreign country. Delay is pretty literally a delayed network. Thousands of things can cause it. Lag is pretty literally a unstable network. Again, Thousands of people can have it. American or not. While yes it's more common for it to come from a foreign area, You'd still have it regardless. To fight a delayer or lagger you should just learn to find a method that works for you, It's not like they have any choice themselves, They have to learn how to deal with it themselves, as graal grows so will its population.

Westbrook Graal 03-23-2018 12:43 AM

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Posted by Rusix (Post 807844)
I don't think you understand...that one does not simply "fix" delay. If it was possible I would do it years ago so I can actually do things online.

Delay and lag will happen regardless, even if everyone was American. Because simply that's not exactly how Wi-Fi really works it doesn't matter if you're from a foreign country. Delay is pretty literally a delayed network. Thousands of things can cause it. Lag is pretty literally a unstable network. Again, Thousands of people can have it. American or not. While yes it's more common for it to come from a foreign area, You'd still have it regardless. To fight a delayer or lagger you should just learn to find a method that works for you, It's not like they have any choice themselves, They have to learn how to deal with it themselves, as graal grows so will its population.

What are utalking about lol i was supporting delayers and i said admins should fix the issue. Dont know why ur bringing up ur supposed wifi issue again

Mount 03-23-2018 12:48 AM

Please delete this post you'll get banned for saying those acronyms.

alexx 03-23-2018 08:57 AM

The real issue is the community dying fast and boosting being a normal thing to spot in the main streak rooms

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Posted by Westbrook Graal (Post 807820)
Dont blame delayers they have no control over their delay and they experience it too. Blame those who fail to fix the problem causing delay to exist in the first place

Developers cannot “Fix” delay or make in non existent, it’s caused by the servers location, only way it can be fixed is with multiple servers across the world.

Goodluck w that

Penguin_ 03-23-2018 11:48 AM

Spar been dead for a very long time considering the only active sparrers consist of Austin koga, kiki, saeed and jimbo... who are all garbage lol

Westbrook Graal 03-24-2018 12:48 AM

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Posted by alexx (Post 807905)
The real issue is the community dying fast and boosting being a normal thing to spot in the main streak rooms



Developers cannot “Fix” delay or make in non existent, it’s caused by the servers location, only way it can be fixed is with multiple servers across the world.

Goodluck w that

Dont wish me luck alex i dont have dev powers

I think someones deleting my messages...

Ethacon 03-24-2018 02:31 AM

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Posted by Westbrook Graal (Post 807998)
Dont wish me luck alex i dont have dev powers

I think someones deleting my messages...

Lol you think the staff haven't tried to fix the "delay"?

Every online game comes with lag.

Depends on the device, the persons location, and the internet source they are using how excessive clientside lag is when they play. Serverside lag that everyone experiences depends on the conditions of the server itself and where it is.

Westbrook Graal 03-25-2018 03:30 AM

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Posted by Ethacon (Post 808026)
Lol you think the staff haven't tried to fix the "delay"?

Every online game comes with lag.

Depends on the device, the persons location, and the internet source they are using how excessive clientside lag is when they play. Serverside lag that everyone experiences depends on the conditions of the server itself and where it is.

The game is becoming more unplayable every month with how laggy its becoming, the various tileset issues, and everything else thats been listed multiple times. The draisine/railroad systems dont even work anymore. If theres been nothing done for that, the NGS, etc; why would there have been anything done for delay?

But ya, theres no issue at all here. The fact that people were able to run around before the bombs went off in gst isn't an issue at all that hinders gameplay.

Yep. It's definitely just your typical online game problem though.. Constant server lag so bad you cant open profiles, and being unable to hit people because their hitboxes are in another dimension. It's simply just regular gaming stuff. And being unable to get anywhere with the draisine you dropped 4k on because the railway systems are all messed up.

It's also typical game stuff for everyone to dub graal a "community ran game" but when people have been asking for years to make a USA only spar room or to implement eras system where if ur too laggy u cant spar, theres still nothing.

I'm going to go out on a whim and say the devs havent even considered working to try and remedy delay, and i'll guarantee u they won't anytime soon. People having fun doesn't make money, tricking gullible 13 year olds into spending 10k on a random accessory does.

Ethacon 03-25-2018 05:39 AM

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Posted by Westbrook Graal (Post 808173)
The game is becoming more unplayable every month with how laggy its becoming, the various tileset issues, and everything else thats been listed multiple times. The draisine/railroad systems dont even work anymore. If theres been nothing done for that, the NGS, etc; why would there have been anything done for delay?

But ya, theres no issue at all here. The fact that people were able to run around before the bombs went off in gst isn't an issue at all that hinders gameplay.

Yep. It's definitely just your typical online game problem though.. Constant server lag so bad you cant open profiles, and being unable to hit people because their hitboxes are in another dimension. It's simply just regular gaming stuff. And being unable to get anywhere with the draisine you dropped 4k on because the railway systems are all messed up.

It's also typical game stuff for everyone to dub graal a "community ran game" but when people have been asking for years to make a USA only spar room or to implement eras system where if ur too laggy u cant spar, theres still nothing.

I'm going to go out on a whim and say the devs havent even considered working to try and remedy delay, and i'll guarantee u they won't anytime soon. People having fun doesn't make money, tricking gullible 13 year olds into spending 10k on a random accessory does.

While you are right about graal seeming to have excessive lag with things like the railroad system and the damn annoying profile stuff, and of course that only smaller community requests are actually implemented in, there is still not much they can do with delay because it all comes down to clientside lag which I already explained what can cause it. Your last point also seems to be what iclassic is aimed towards nowadays considering that all the capsules machines are supposed to cost 500 gralats and half of the first time, this time around it cost 10k and there is no discount at all when you do it for the first time.

Jarace 03-25-2018 10:53 PM

Wanted to remind everyone that this thread has been discussing delay/lag, not who you consider competent in spar.


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