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Jester Lapse 06-16-2012 04:57 PM

New spar wait time sucks
 
Now if you lose a spar you can't join for 1 minute before joining again. Seeing as I rarely lose (jokes) you'd think I wouldn't care. But I see two things wrong with this

-New players are going to quit more often. If you keep losing and are trying to get better that 1 minute window every time will just get annoying and people will most likely give up

-Series will be more difficult. A series is when 2 players go head to head in a series of spars to see who is better. Something like first to 5 or 3/5 wins. People also use this as a recruitment technique for their gang. The 1 minute window is annoying because you can't keep going like a series is supposed to go.

What are your thoughts on this update?

vnio 06-16-2012 05:01 PM

wow, I didn't know about this

Ace 06-16-2012 05:08 PM

I agree but I think it was added to stop boosting

Higbey 06-16-2012 05:09 PM

Rufus had a better system to stop boosting, this update ruined sparring.

Njc2823 06-16-2012 05:10 PM

Im trying to improve my spar. But now this is like a giant road block x.x

Johnaudi 06-16-2012 05:11 PM

Wouldn't stopping boosting be easier as killing the same person 5 times in a raw stops the addition of the wins count? Same as streaks.

K!LLA KEV 06-16-2012 06:18 PM

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Posted by Johnaudi (Post 142059)
Wouldn't stopping boosting be easier as killing the same person 5 times in a raw stops the addition of the wins count? Same as streaks.

but how? it works in PK because the person gets warped..

Rok 06-16-2012 06:21 PM

Just goes to show how unaware the staff are of player opinions. Go ahead and waste time on updates that no one wants, seems logical to me.

callimuc 06-16-2012 06:36 PM

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Posted by Rok (Post 142099)
Just goes to show how unaware the staff are of player opinions. Go ahead and waste time on updates that no one wants, seems logical to me.

Ya we are totally unaware of players opinions and totaly ignore them... I mean it's not like our iDevice accounts won't have that problem aswell.

Rok 06-16-2012 06:44 PM

And yet it was added anyways. So maybe just a lapse in judgment, or lack of common sense? I don't see why someone would spend time adding an update that no one likes/wants. Jester has already stated some of the many reasons why this shouldn't be added. And the one reason it was added was to stop kids from boosting, supposedly? If people don't want to have any actual sparring skill, that's their own problem. Why punish the rest of the players, who spar fair and square, for their actions. If you guys despise boosting so much, maybe you should actually focus on the boosters, and not implement a "punishment" for people who lose a spar match. I lose all the time. You're more likely to ruin sparring as a whole, instead of just boosters, with the new update. So, gj with that.

MrSimons 06-16-2012 06:45 PM

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Posted by Rok (Post 142099)
Just goes to show how unaware the staff are of player opinions. Go ahead and waste time on updates that no one wants, seems logical to me.

Check out iClassic and then say iEra staff ignore you, iClassic has one decent staff member and on iEra the whole team is pretty good. But on topic, this is kinda annoying to me seeing I can barely get any wins now (I never could anyway) but now I'm just standing around for ages waiting for my turn then losing.

K!LLA KEV 06-16-2012 06:46 PM

then WIN simons, WIN!

MrSimons 06-16-2012 06:49 PM

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Posted by K!LLA KEV (Post 142115)
then WIN simons, WIN!

I try to melee because I'm too used to classic, unfortunely when bullets are being sprayed at you each doing 10 dmg a dagger isn't gonna do much.

Higbey 06-16-2012 06:52 PM

this is just stupid, completely idiotic, tons of ways to stop boosting, and they go for a one minute wait after you lose? iera killed spar. might as well get rid of the stats in the profile for it if your going to be ridiculous and do this. its just the principle that such a idiotic way to take care of boosting, a way that would frustrate everyone, was added anyway, and not immediately removed after players showed this much disapproval.

this is a new low, devs should have never been so stupid as to add this. this is a example of how NOT to fix problems.

Rok 06-16-2012 06:56 PM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 142125)
this is just stupid, completely idiotic, tons of ways to stop boosting, and they go for a one minute wait after you lose? iera killed spar. might as well get rid of the stats in the profile for it if your going to be ridiculous and do this. its just the principle that such a idiotic way to take care of boosting, a way that would frustrate everyone, was added anyway, and not immediately removed after players showed this much disapproval.

this is a new low, devs should have never been so stupid as to add this. this is a example of how NOT to fix problems.

Yup. And if they're really as "aware" as they say they are...then it just means they don't care what we think. Which really isn't the best way to run a player-based server, now is it.


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