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MSM 06-24-2012 11:15 PM

Why Can Admins Jail/Ban without proof?
 
So, the title surely explains my question. I have been banned a few times, and throughout all of those times, it was by mistake because the admins assumed something without evidence. The same thing happened to some of my friends. They should not be allowed to Jail/Ban without having any proof of the person. For example, today I was randomly banned. I didn't do anything wrong, which means they have no proof, so I should be unbanned. Maybe the iEra courthouse could be used for admins to show their proof to players, and players could fight against it. Players would be innocent until proven guilty.

Higbey 06-24-2012 11:17 PM

no. shut up. you were banned for stealing accounts, we know it wasnt your older brother. suck it up and dont post about it here, they had enough evidence, and will most likely post it here and make you look like a fool.

MSM 06-24-2012 11:19 PM

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Posted by Higbey (Post 147719)
no. shut up. you were banned for stealing accounts, we know it wasnt your older brother. suck it up and dont post about it here, they had enough evidence, and will most likely post it here and make you look like a fool.

They don't have any evidence of something if it never happened. They probably have evidence of me being invited to the person's house, I didn't know it was my brother until after I was banned.

Dude1310 06-24-2012 11:20 PM

You tried to scam me out of my account... http://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7818

MSM 06-24-2012 11:21 PM

No, as I said in another thread that Callimuc deleted, it was my older brother! Why doesn't anyone believe me? If the admin that banned me is seeing this thread, please post your (fake) evidence. Thanks.

MattKan 06-24-2012 11:22 PM

It doesn't work that way. Staff are trustworthy and can take care of the server, and they shouldn't have to prove why in front of every wrong-doer who wants to stall their ban.

Funny thing is, when I had Era RC, it was clear that the staff team believed in not banning players but correcting them so that they didn't do wrong. So instead of a ban, a warning. And only if they got several warnings, they'd be banned. I rarely saw anybody being banned the two months I worked there. Personally, and I think many staff members did the same, I tried to talk to some of the players and make them see reason.

Not saying Classic isn't, but Era is extremely fair to its players and even very lenient. So you obviously did something wrong, and now you're going to pay the price.

:D!

MSM 06-24-2012 11:24 PM

I know Era is fair to players, but they banned the wrong person, which obviously means they did it by mistake, so now i should be unbanned and then we're all happy again. yay

MattKan 06-24-2012 11:25 PM

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Posted by Dude1310 (Post 147724)
You tried to scam me out of my account... http://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7818

MSM is this really you?

Dude1310 06-24-2012 11:26 PM

Trying to steal accounts is a serious thing on iEra, so they probably IP banned "your brother" that's why it banned you too.

The Doctor 06-24-2012 11:26 PM

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Posted by MSM Graal (Post 147725)
No, as I said in another thread that Callimuc deleted, it was my older brother! Why doesn't anyone believe me? If the admin that banned me is seeing this thread, please post your (fake) evidence. Thanks.

They have logs which is evidence.

MSM 06-24-2012 11:27 PM

NO! OMG! I ALREADY SAID! MY OLDER BROTHER DID IT SHEESH

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Posted by Shawn (Post 147731)
They have logs which is evidence.

And what would it say in the logs?

Dude1310 06-24-2012 11:27 PM

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Posted by MattKan (Post 147729)
MSM is this really you?

He claims it's his brother

MSM 06-24-2012 11:28 PM

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Posted by Dude1310 (Post 147730)
Trying to steal accounts is a serious thing on iEra, so they probably IP banned "your brother" that's why it banned you too.

Exactly. Why would they IP ban though?

The Doctor 06-24-2012 11:29 PM

Actually greengaw is not banned because he PMed me recently after I saw that thread. Soya

Dude1310 06-24-2012 11:29 PM

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Posted by MSM Graal (Post 147734)
Exactly. Why would they IP ban though?

Because admins take this very seriously...I think


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