FB fort hours are a whole lot easier than iphone, no doubt, dont argue. but no one here is saying that those FB guilds shouldnt be recognized. FB guilds need to be recognized, but on a different board. i wouldnt mind having a dead scoreboard for hours that were on fb. the memorial idea goten suggested sounded weird to me but if its acceptable, ok. About the whole "no backup data" issue, well theres plenty of people who can remember for those careless admins. yes this will involve a large part of the integrity-system, which probably wont work well, but ppl DO remember these things.