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Callimuc, heres your goodies:
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Oh please. All that person is saying has already been beaten out the window many many times and he has obviously not looked into the big bang or any theory for that matter.
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Two separate paths branch out before each of us; the path of atheism on one hand and the path of God or gods on the other. One path denies accountability to any superior being other than that of nature’s collective consciousness. The other requires obedience and ultimate accountability to the government of a higher power.
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This is bull crap. There isn't two paths, if you have an allegiance to one path you have a problem. I'm not atheist or religious, im whatever I believe is the most reliable answer to the universes existence and I dont have any opinion on a god because that is outside the realm of reason.
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How does it make any logical sense to attribute the existence and technology of spacecraft, computers, automobiles, and the like to intelligent design by human production, while at the same time pointing to the complex living mechanisms of this planet and asserting they are the result of natural accidental luck?
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Again, further proof this person does not have any experience on the other side of the argument. Hes just playing the "god" card to the seemingly high sophistication of our society. Its an illusion that our society is a society of high order. The waste we emit and the fact that we cannot produce more energy than we take in shows we are a society of decreasing order, or disorder.
What he is saying is basically the lowest form of rationality in this argument: that all of this is too complicated and shiny to come from a big bang and chance so somehow that means there must be a god because in his mind there's only two possibilities. And he is also gullible enough to fall for the "Hell" card (somehow the possible existence of a god deems that Christianity is right) to reel him in saying that he doesn't loose anything and I would loose everything. This person does not have enough education to yield a reliable answer. Again, i will point to the fantastic mind of Stephan hawking to make my statement:
Do we need a God to set it all up so a Big Bang can bang? … Our everyday experience makes us convinced that everything that happens must be caused by something that occurred earlier in time. So it’s natural for us to assume that something—perhaps God—must have caused the universe to come into existence. But when we’re talking about the universe as a whole, that isn’t necessarily so.
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The role played by time at the beginning of the universe is, I believe, the final key to removing the need for a Grand Designer, and revealing how the universe created itself. … Time itself must come to a stop [at the singularity]. You can’t get to a time before the big bang, because there was no time before the big bang. We have finally found something that does not have a cause because there was no time for a cause to exist in. For me this means there is no possibility of a creator because there is no time for a creator to have existed. Since time itself began at the moment of the Big Bang, it was an event that could not have been caused or created by anyone or anything. … So when people ask me if a god created the universe, I tell them the question itself makes no sense. Time didn’t exist before the Big Bang, so there is no time for God to make the universe in. It’s like asking for directions to the edge of the Earth. The Earth is a sphere. It does not have an edge, so looking for it is a futile exercise.”[1]
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~Stefan hawking