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Jester Lapse · 02-01-2013

I think this debate is actually a good one and not as cut and dry as some seem to think it is. I see mostly staff advocating that it is okay for staff to own gangs. I don't really play era, nor have I cared about the basing scene in a long time, so I will try to keep my opinion unbiased.

As with every debate, there are two sides. I see both sides of the coin as I am staff on iZone and I was a long time player on iEra AND iClassic. Now, the reason I say it is not as black and white as some believe it to be is for the following reasons,

-People would rather be in a staff gang than a player gang most of the time. Yes, I have seen it over and over. Between Magic and Zanza on classic to candy and sk on era. One of the reasons basing lost its charm for me back in the day was simply because staff members would use unreleased guns (call it testing~yet they still are not out), use seemingly unlimited grenades, would do freebies anytime their members needed ammo etc etc. I have been in quite a few staff gangs in my time on era, ranging between milkshake, jsi, bboy, HW, etc etc. It happens(not saying the staff listed did it), in fact the only reason you don't see unreleased guns in basing anymore is because I bitched to snk about 3 times about it.

-Staff need a break, so they should be able to enjoy the game. This is also true, staff do need a break and should be allowed to partake in activities. They also are able to find bugs and glitches by actually playing what everyone else plays. My suggestion was they should only be able to do so on their iDevices. This brings the question "what if they do not have one?" ~ in that case, it sucks for them really. I don't see why you would want to work for a server you have never played before.
Also, basing from PC against a bunch of iOS Devices gives the PC player a significant advantage. Not only are you able to click to shoot, but your usually have more of a view than an iPad zoomed out. Ever wonder how they know where to shoot from across the hall? Also, someone is going to claim the FB and Skyrider make it equal. Those laggy pieces of (french) is the most difficult thing to play on. They lag every 20 seconds and it just does not compare.

-Now with all that said, while on iZone, I partake in activities that involve planet taking (equivalent to basing). I do it rarely, but I still do it. The only time I use my staff account however, is when I am looking for bugs that need to be fixed. I also think staff should join OTHER peoples gangs instead of using their own. Both of my squads on Zone are just friendly squads, no "get to base or kick". But I find on era, the get to base is one of the leading gangs on the server. I remember the only time staff based, was when you asked for a challenge and a gang full of admins would attack you and it was actually enjoyable because they did not aim to just take your base and shut you out, it was more of a PK exercise than anything.

-Not to mention when a staff member has an idiot on their tag breaking rules and being a general twit, it reflects badly on them. That is how players minds work sadly.

Anyways, those are my views on the matter.

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Jester Lapse zzz Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: WA USA Posts: 9,232	I think this debate is actually a good one and not as cut and dry as some seem to think it is. I see mostly staff advocating that it is okay for staff to own gangs. I don't really play era, nor have I cared about the basing scene in a long time, so I will try to keep my opinion unbiased. As with every debate, there are two sides. I see both sides of the coin as I am staff on iZone and I was a long time player on iEra AND iClassic. Now, the reason I say it is not as black and white as some believe it to be is for the following reasons, -People would rather be in a staff gang than a player gang most of the time. Yes, I have seen it over and over. Between Magic and Zanza on classic to candy and sk on era. One of the reasons basing lost its charm for me back in the day was simply because staff members would use unreleased guns (call it testing~yet they still are not out), use seemingly unlimited grenades, would do freebies anytime their members needed ammo etc etc. I have been in quite a few staff gangs in my time on era, ranging between milkshake, jsi, bboy, HW, etc etc. It happens(not saying the staff listed did it), in fact the only reason you don't see unreleased guns in basing anymore is because I bitched to snk about 3 times about it. -Staff need a break, so they should be able to enjoy the game. This is also true, staff do need a break and should be allowed to partake in activities. They also are able to find bugs and glitches by actually playing what everyone else plays. My suggestion was they should only be able to do so on their iDevices. This brings the question "what if they do not have one?" ~ in that case, it sucks for them really. I don't see why you would want to work for a server you have never played before. Also, basing from PC against a bunch of iOS Devices gives the PC player a significant advantage. Not only are you able to click to shoot, but your usually have more of a view than an iPad zoomed out. Ever wonder how they know where to shoot from across the hall? Also, someone is going to claim the FB and Skyrider make it equal. Those laggy pieces of (french) is the most difficult thing to play on. They lag every 20 seconds and it just does not compare. -Now with all that said, while on iZone, I partake in activities that involve planet taking (equivalent to basing). I do it rarely, but I still do it. The only time I use my staff account however, is when I am looking for bugs that need to be fixed. I also think staff should join OTHER peoples gangs instead of using their own. Both of my squads on Zone are just friendly squads, no "get to base or kick". But I find on era, the get to base is one of the leading gangs on the server. I remember the only time staff based, was when you asked for a challenge and a gang full of admins would attack you and it was actually enjoyable because they did not aim to just take your base and shut you out, it was more of a PK exercise than anything. -Not to mention when a staff member has an idiot on their tag breaking rules and being a general twit, it reflects badly on them. That is how players minds work sadly. Anyways, those are my views on the matter.