idk if you read the part where I said, "I'm not a PR" so I'll say it again, I'm not a PR. and this thread was about the new PR's not a flame war on the dev team for doing the job they was given rather then doing PR work all day, if I remember right we had a Developer who was fired for doing nothing but PR work all day..... Lets keep this thread on topic, and congrats to those who made PR I'm glad to see more reliable admins on the team to assist with then many problems iEra encounters on a daily basis, and I look forward to working with you all