Last night, I was playing iClassic and joined a guild called Rose. We were quite successful with about 10 people active and took MoD. Now, as only PKers were attacking to kill us, I suggested that we take castle. Everybody refused and I scouted, to their annoyance, and saw that only 3 SoN members were actually active (subs and all). I requested that 4 come down and help take Castle, and they still said no. It even went down to only 2 being active! Still, the Rose guild refused and kicked me for spamming about this opportunity.
They were scared of SoN.
I then joined another guild called Blood Drunk. They had 15 on and like Rose, refused to take Castle even though SoN had 5 on at that time.
So I'm going to start a guild. I have an old one I made a while back called 'Vesperia' that I will be using.
The aim of the guild is to take castle and beat SoN. To show that they can be taken down and stuff.
Contact me in game or forum pm/post if you are interested.