That's just the dumbest argument ever.

Vintage had countless other "hat chaser" guilds, or whatever you kids call them, some of which consisted of such douchebaggery as naming the entire guild after a single person (and I thought I had a big ego).

Is your argument, "We don't care about hats in some guilds, just in others, and that proves we are so passionate about towering!" or what? That's dumb, just because your leader doesn't hand out a hat doesn't make you any better or more meaningful than any other guild who reaches that same amount of hours.

It's not a secret why Vintage, and other guilds, didn't give out hats until they finished. It's because they want their members to stay interested and loyal, they want them to continue to push and get the leader hours for their guild. Why give out a hat out to 25 people at 1000 hours when you could keep 50+ people on their toes and expecting or assuming they'd get a hat (or even two) all the way until 5000?

Nothing is wrong with giving out a hat. If anything, Vintage's situation is worse because now (since Aimee is looking for hat makers that she should have looked for months ago), people are going to be let down. It takes more balls and integrity to give the hats out to members when you reach your hours. It shows that you care about them getting something they deserve more than your selfish little guild.

"The fact that we don't give out hats proves that we are a better towering guild and we do it for fun!" Riiight. It proves that your interest is retaining members rather than rewarding your members for an achievement when they deserve it and instead relying on false hope and anxiousness to carry your guild to more hours.

Any guild that delays their rewards has no spine. IMO, it shouldn't even be allowed. Plus, Vintage constantly abused the privilege of having admins in their guild, but that's another story entirely. Envy was ridiculous.