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How is it BS or abusive towards players? Not in a mean defensive way I'm just curious to see why you think of us like that.
Whatever "BS" or "abusive" strategy they supposedly used doesn't really make sense to me, they are actually one of the first guilds to reach 5k in a very, VERY long time. Also, they were successful in warding off hat chasers by not giving out the 1k hat at 1k and waiting until 5k, because by then the only people who would leave would be the true hat chasers, many of us have actually grown close together and formed strong bonds between as all that I don't really think any of the core leaders will be leaving if we still plan on going to 10k.
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I left vintage because Luna banned me their and I was too scared to go back because idk if she's gonna like ban me if I say a word. It was my first ban too and I didn't know what to do!