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Thallen · 01-05-2016

WALL OF TEXT ALERT

One thing you guys need to consider when you're making suggestions from here on is that a restructured guild system and a player/guild achievement system is planned and eventually coming. That being said, suggesting temporary fixes or things that fall in between is kind of useless. Suggesting things that will compliment these changes is what you should be doing.
For example, my thread about spar/PK/BK rewards should be left alone now. Staff have announced rewards for seasonal leaderboards, and I'm sure there will be rewards for higher-tier achievements.

Here are some examples of suggestions I have that are vaguely related to the leaderboard change.

1. Create some building to commemorate history and statistics for the game
You guys keep suggesting that they bring back the all-time leaderboards, but Rufus doesn't seem to want to and he's made that clear. I'm all for preserving records and scores though. I do think that there should be an accessible building that has lists of the top 10-50 sparrers (wins), PKers, and BKers. I also think a place like this would be nice to maybe have lists or statues of all first place seasonal winners.

Rufus has mentioned this will very likely happen, but I'll just throw it out there because I definitely support that.

2. Completely put an end to device bias by holding a single GST
I quoted it as a troll before, but I actually would like this. Keyboardaphobia should be (and mostly is) dead by now. I'm honestly more afraid of facing a few iDevice teams. There are no longer split leaderboards by default. There are no longer PC and iDevice spar rooms.

Teams will no longer be forced to be of one device type. Mixed teams rarely incorporate iDevice players right now because they have their own tourney and they want to participate in that. However, just as a personal example, I can think of at least 2 iDevices that I'd immediately consider for my own Mixed team if they were available.

It's awkward to have two GSTs being held at the same time and seeding between two different tournaments based on a single leaderboard. I just don't see why it's necessary. Maybe if this happens, it lessens the load on staff enough to actually consider a singles tournament in the future.

With the new guild system eventually coming, guilds will function more naturally and, as a spar guild leader, I hate the idea that 14 (at minimum) of my guild roster spots are taken up by GST participants. In the new guild system, all guilds should be able to be competitive at guild sparring, towering, PKing, etc. Having an extra GST just seems completely unnecessary to me, especially when many iDevices have proven that they can compete.

3. Consider alternative ways to seed teams for the GST
I really think it should trickle down like this in some way:

GSTs won
GST rounds won
Guild spar points

If your tag has a GST win, you're seeded higher than teams with none
If two tags have the same number of GST wins, the team with the more GST rounds won is seeded higher
If two tags have the same number of GST wins and GST rounds won, the team with the most guild spar points is seeded higher

With how the GST is automated, I can see from a scripting standpoint how this could be easily achieved. This also encourages more natural guild function, as you'll have incentive to participate on the same tag (like a guild should do). This would allow us to have an activity-centric GS leaderboard, while guilds who deserve to be in the GST by their previous achievements are naturally seeded higher. You'd no longer have to boringly sit around sparring 200 noob teams every GST to qualify when you clearly deserve it.

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Thallen Enguard & Alumni Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 5,773	WALL OF TEXT ALERT One thing you guys need to consider when you're making suggestions from here on is that a restructured guild system and a player/guild achievement system is planned and eventually coming. That being said, suggesting temporary fixes or things that fall in between is kind of useless. Suggesting things that will compliment these changes is what you should be doing. For example, my thread about spar/PK/BK rewards should be left alone now. Staff have announced rewards for seasonal leaderboards, and I'm sure there will be rewards for higher-tier achievements. Here are some examples of suggestions I have that are vaguely related to the leaderboard change. 1. Create some building to commemorate history and statistics for the game You guys keep suggesting that they bring back the all-time leaderboards, but Rufus doesn't seem to want to and he's made that clear. I'm all for preserving records and scores though. I do think that there should be an accessible building that has lists of the top 10-50 sparrers (wins), PKers, and BKers. I also think a place like this would be nice to maybe have lists or statues of all first place seasonal winners. Rufus has mentioned this will very likely happen, but I'll just throw it out there because I definitely support that. 2. Completely put an end to device bias by holding a single GST I quoted it as a troll before, but I actually would like this. Keyboardaphobia should be (and mostly is) dead by now. I'm honestly more afraid of facing a few iDevice teams. There are no longer split leaderboards by default. There are no longer PC and iDevice spar rooms. Teams will no longer be forced to be of one device type. Mixed teams rarely incorporate iDevice players right now because they have their own tourney and they want to participate in that. However, just as a personal example, I can think of at least 2 iDevices that I'd immediately consider for my own Mixed team if they were available. It's awkward to have two GSTs being held at the same time and seeding between two different tournaments based on a single leaderboard. I just don't see why it's necessary. Maybe if this happens, it lessens the load on staff enough to actually consider a singles tournament in the future. With the new guild system eventually coming, guilds will function more naturally and, as a spar guild leader, I hate the idea that 14 (at minimum) of my guild roster spots are taken up by GST participants. In the new guild system, all guilds should be able to be competitive at guild sparring, towering, PKing, etc. Having an extra GST just seems completely unnecessary to me, especially when many iDevices have proven that they can compete. 3. Consider alternative ways to seed teams for the GST I really think it should trickle down like this in some way: GSTs won GST rounds won Guild spar points If your tag has a GST win, you're seeded higher than teams with none If two tags have the same number of GST wins, the team with the more GST rounds won is seeded higher If two tags have the same number of GST wins and GST rounds won, the team with the most guild spar points is seeded higher With how the GST is automated, I can see from a scripting standpoint how this could be easily achieved. This also encourages more natural guild function, as you'll have incentive to participate on the same tag (like a guild should do). This would allow us to have an activity-centric GS leaderboard, while guilds who deserve to be in the GST by their previous achievements are naturally seeded higher. You'd no longer have to boringly sit around sparring 200 noob teams every GST to qualify when you clearly deserve it.