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You're proving my point though:
You used the Anyu example, well Anyu getting her all-time kills is completely different from when Xenthic got his. He got his when less people played and when mobs were less popular, making it a lot more difficult. Comparing 2 completely different frames of time like that with some leaderboard is unfair to both of them. Even a year is probably too much, I'm glad it's seasonal at the highest. I personally don't care if they show all-time statistics, but I just think it's skewed.
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I don't see how I'm proving your point. You compared the all-time list with the first to reach X amount of stats as being the same. I explained why I don't see it that way. Not arguing the validity of the all-time list or it's meaning, what I'm saying is that's not the same as the first to reach list.
As for the stats from different eras being different to acquired is nonsense. EP got 10k in 2011, so I don't see how can the argument be that today people are able to get more kills. He spent like half a year getting 2k plus. Xenthic became a pkr after the leader board was release along with 90% of the old all-time board and they made it very easy to get kills since most of them were pk'ng mod. Maybe there was a small window frame between when the outside of mod became non-pk and the birth of mob pk'ng where it was harder to get kills, but it wasn't a long period.
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What do you mean? This is the exact same leaderboard as the one we had just a week ago. It's just that they finally added the whole of the suggestion rather then parts of it.
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Pretty good example here of how points aren't as dumb as whoever spars the most... As we can see, the HK guy is a noob hunter who spars players negative players on average (there's literally no way to do that "accidentally"), whereas Fabulous has sparred 300 less times and has over than 1000 more points |
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Still wondering why ppl have twice my wins and less then my points
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To you the leader board might not be any better. You want a leader board that represents "skill", but for everybody else, now they have a way to brag over another sparer. Not to mentioned a player can spar for a day and "show" his dominance instead of feeling like they have to no life it.
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Okay first of all this has definitely made sparring more competitive now and as much as I dislike the idea of pc and idev together it makes sense.
As for pk.. well the long term motivation for most pkers was the all time top 100. This new leaderboard doesn't encourage anything different except no life mob boosting.
Yesterday about 8-9 people got 3k plus pks and one guy got 7k (most of which was done in about 2 hours). How does this encourage more competition? People could come on 2 days late after season starts and see the season leaderboards are topped by someone with 15k after 2 days...Yeah like that's gonna motivate someone to pk more than a top 100 which u can work your way up to and chase. Even if I was on 6 hours a day and no life pkd I doubt I'd ever get top 3, because top 3 now belongs to the mob boosters.
An award every 3 months for the most active players does not compare to The achievement of getting into the top 100 and working your way up.
At least an all time pk leader board motivated determined pkers who have been pking for a long ass time (for nothing now) . This new leader board just encourages people with nothing to do for 3 months to get a ridiculous amount of pks and claim an award at the end of it when all they did was watch tv while spamming the sword button on their screen.
Bring back the old system for pks , or find a way to add an all time and don't say that the sh**ty little book with the top 10 that will never get updated makes up for it.
Doubt my opinion really matters but this is the worst update there has been. My favourite part about the game has gone. Please bring back the old pk leaderboards. Ik for a fact most of the other top 100 and the real tower pkers agree with me
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Let me ask you a question. Say they read this and go you know what "He's right let me bring the all-time board back" What will be the point? In a year the all-time top 25 is going to be filled with reward chasers.
Let it be known that I the mighty GOAT came up with the phrase reward chasers. Screw these noobs, they're not real pkrs they're reward chasers. Take that to the first person who said hat chasers.
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Didn't the old leaderboard do the same thing, except not for 3 months, but for all-time? I don't understand the argument...
I feel like a lot of people in this thread complaining are just making illogical, selfish arguments because they want permanent validation of an all-time leaderboard. That's fine, but stating it as anything else doesn't make sense to me.
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How is it any different from players that want temporary validation for being the most "skilled" sparer. Also, like I mentioned earlier if the rewards are good the leader board will probably change drastically if they put it somewhere in the library. I guess we can agree that it's pointless to complain about it since most of the people crying will be moved from the list anyways.
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So much complaining about mob PKing in this thread... how does anyone propose to fix it? 'Cause the mere mention of implementing respawns sends everyone into a furious rage. Yet respawning exactly where you died with absolutely no punishment is what's causing mob PKing.
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Ez whoever doesn't get a end of season reward gets a crying gani as a consolation prize.
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At the end of the day isn't it the people that spend the most of their day on this games the ones that deserve the prize anyway? Since they are dedicating more of their lives to attain that goal? That's sort of a large part of what a leaderboard is.
It seems like a lot of people are just complaining because the changes don't benefit them on a personal level.
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people shouldn't be awarded for playing, but if somebody is willing to contribute X amount of hours of "mindless" activity for a reward let them have it.