I don't know. That's not what I was arguing though. I guess the quality of a hat is in the eye of the beholder. I usually don't like the GST hats either. No doubt they look good, but I'm not a fan of the concept for most of them. The only one of the most recent ones I liked was the cobra one and one of the others that I forget... Anyways, I don't think they necessarily looked special, especially for winning a GST. I think the main issue is the idea, since I believe most people would agree that the hats are at least made well. I liked Livid's idea of some system, or even just a thread with ideas for hat ideas for the GST prizes.