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PigParty · 04-11-2016

Posted by Yog

I've never personally agreed with any of his proposals. Some of them do sound good, but there's proof out there that he doesn't actually want what he says he does. I've cited this in previous posts. I could get it for you if you'd like. (Where he's outsourced jobs to China, and is still doing so. Then claims this is what's wrong with our economy. So essentially he claims HE is the problem.)

Again, I don't agree with these plans. Although to be honest I'm quite surprised he's actually proposed one to get Mexico to pay for his wall.

So you admit the solution is bad?

Look. I'm not against deporting illegal immigrants, and I get you understand that. But funneling years of labor and money into something that won't do anything is a stupid idea. Unless we have a plan that will work, I think it's a complete waste of resources.

Over 10 million. All trialed in court. I'd be willing to bet money we don't even get most.

Let me reiterate. I'm not saying trialing them is a bad idea. But there's no way you can get 10 million out of the country without breaking any rights.

Again. I am against illegal immigration, and I know CM is. Me saying that it's not practical to deport illegal immigrants is different from me saying we shouldn't do anything about it.

When you have a plan that doesn't work, that's one thing. But when you have a plan that doesn't work and you're an ego-tastical asshole, I don't want you near the White House.

I'll admit it's very possible that cutting off wiring from US to Mexico may damper illegal immigrants, but most of that money is being taxed anyways. At this point the only problem with the money leaving the country is because they aren't a resident in the US. Not to mention the residents of the US that can't send money to their families.

"Give and take what you need" is the same mentality that's bringing us illegal immigrants. I don't think we can get Mexico to pay for a wall. I refuse to believe it can be done. All you can really do is piss a bunch of them off.

Most situations? I can't think of one benefit the wall would bring anyone. Except maybe the ladder companies. Oooh! And the drug dealers. Since prices would increase because you'd need someone on the other side to catch the drugs when you throw it over.

I think any investment towards stopping drugs is a waste of money. I believe that most crimes involving injury and death that were drug related are due to enforcement. I believe that if you get rid of the enforcement, you'd get rid of the aggressiveness of drug dealers, and prices of the product would drop significantly. Most in prison due to petty drug arrests are just in prison for profit. Not to mention it would save the government hundreds of billions ending the war on drugs.

How is it not impractical to round up and trial over 10 million illegal immigrants?

I'd actually like to see that reference. I've thought about Trump quite a bit, and he generally (although recently, he doesn't seem to be) admits that he did what many people dislike. I find that a good thing, if he would use that to benefit the country, because he would know many of the issues that businesses and the rich take advantage of. It really boils down to his intentions, and he's crazy about his ego and legacy, so I hope he would use that experience to benefit the country... As for the drug problem, I know this may start an entire other issue, but I would like drugs to remain illegal, with a mandatory sentence of forced rehabilitation and are released upon doctor's approval. Prison does nothing to non-violent drug users except mix them up even more with worse criminals. I'd also like the NSA abilities to be used toward serious crimes against others such as gang activity and drug lords. I personally don't care if they listen to my conversation with my Dad in order to rule me out. That's an entire other discussion, though. As with the idea that this would piss off Mexico... They obviously won't like it, and very well may do something to get back at us (such as raise prices) but we are being dealt the short straw in our trade deals and something needs to be done about it, even if it has nothing to do with the wall. I tried finding the article again but couldn't, but I believe I saw a few weeks ago an article that said how much of the money that is transferred from America to Mexico goes to their own government, and it was a surprisingly high number... Yea, it would have an effect on families in Mexico, but it would be used as a tool against the Mexican government. Honestly, you can't do anything without pissing someone off, and America is the ones who should be pissed off for dealing with incompetent leaders who put us in situations like this where we're being taken advantage of.