wait johnraven was a lat admin at one point? the more i learn the more im relieved that chelt became manager, lots of questionable decisions were made in the past 
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John R. I was told was not the john raven hacker in era. Zone staff had to go through the "background check" just like all other servers do. John R. never did anything on zone to disrupt gameplay. The more I hear you talk, the more relieved I am because I realize no one should take you seriously.