(I enlarged the bottom so it could be easier to read and to make sure people can understand the situation)
How many times did we all say this!?!?

1.You didn't make any new hats for black Friday. You instead took the oldest of hats from a year or two ago and sold it for 10-20% of the prices (SCAM!)
2.All the holiday hunting hats are still being re-released over and over again (and so are the furniture)
3.Hide n seek hats are also going on sale.

Lemme explain this here and now from 2 previous quotes of mine:

Spoiler

The admins have told players that hats cannot be added to the upload system, because the hats are supposed to still remain at a rare value. This is a problem considering the fact that admins are Re-Selling the old rare hats we kept as valuable items.

This pretty much makes no sense. If hats are going to lose their value, why not just make the upload system include hats for a cost of 20,000 gralats? If you're gonna destroy the value of hats, at least let us make our own. I don't mind if you sell them.

So how does this affect our graal classic community? The rarity of the hats decrease, as the value of the hats are destroyed and making them hard to find collectibles are now easy to find, making them not really rare at all. Everyone almost have the rare Leprechaun hat and im sure that some valuable halloween hats will be coming back on sale. Shocking

Now i know some people are gonna reply "Dude, let the new players earn these hats" or "Shouldn't we give all members a chance?". Please notice that its not only the new players that are paying but those that spend 1000+ hours spending their hard earned cash trying to be satisfied with the complete graal experience. If this keeps up, veteran graal players will stop paying the cash and stop hunting for these hats as they will be re-sold again.

So whats gonna happen now? Will the admins make a new hat system? Will admins sell/give more old rare hats again? Who knows... But i wanted to give in my honest opinion on this... Now you may comment
-Maikeru

Ugh... Lemme point this out very clear...
If theres no hats, theres no updates to keep us accompany...
Therefore, it will upset players and have them make b*tchfits about updates! So be lucky we're getting player-uploaded hats weekly or Graal Classic will crash in the market terribly! Yes, News Flash: Hats are what keeps the game alive for a while..

Seriously, you players don't know what you're talking about... Hats are like achievements/collectibles! Some of them look awesome and some of them look bad. You wanna collect these hats, and match it with your clothing. I really love the hats more than the heads and bodies because its not really that common. some hats are really rare and makes other people jealous of you... Thats competition! xD

Don't you go one day like "Hey! I want that hat!" when you see some player with an awesome/good hat? Of course you do! That what makes the rarity of hats so exciting! You wanna have an inventory of like every hat so you can try to mix it up and make your unique outfit! You wanna keep collecting them and try experimenting them with new styles! Hat upload systems aren't fun at all because they're gonna be godly expensive (30,000 gralats per hat) and its not gonna be fun experimenting anymore Plus then it wouldn't make anything worth collecting anymore and then the game would be really boring!

And yes, i was stupid to put in a hat upload system for the votes.. Srsly, why do people want hat upload systems!? Keep the rarity of hats alive!

Now quotes from other players:

Spoiler

Posted by TylerMyste

I honestly think old hats should be for old players. I would consider it a reward for remaining loyal and playing the game, but nope. Old hats are constantly sold at Nexus, Revolution, and Club Crypt. They should create an email where players can send hats other than [email protected] so new hats will be posted instead of old ones.

Posted by Higbey

Yea I remember the leprechaun hat resell. And remember how they called the lava pet a limited edition and one time only thing? Then they released it again! Not only is over half the game about buying useless graphics, but they aren't even good at doing it!

Posted by Rexx

yep the lava pet which I bought on impulse because it was suppose to be exclusive yet it has been sold again on more than a few occasions.

Posted by Mr.Simons

I am 100% against re sells, I think if new players want hats buy one and wait till it disappears and becomes old.

Posted by Callimuc

Resell them? No. Actually thats something older players can be prout of and kind of shows for how long you have been playing iClassic.

Keep them rare? Yes. No more explanation.

Posted by DarkKnight

I'm so sad they rereleased the BTK Black Helm

Posted by iHot

As i walked into the crowded nexus hat shop i saw ALL morphs for less money, the mask and cap at more then half off, all octos for 100 gralats and 3xor masks for 1k! Jolly good show admins! Your such hypocrites was it nyn i believe who said that "If hats are at a lower price their value will decrease." What the hell are you saying your selling a hood thats in snowtown for 10k and making it 2500! I know 5 people who bought the hat a couple of days before and they are pissed.
Now please take this into consideration before giving some smart alec remark on how im wrong and your right.

EDIT:oh right now that some older hats are cheaper and more avalible now more graalians will proclaim themselves veterans.

Posted by Rexx

They're selling the black and red Xor mask for 1k!
(including a bunch of other old hats)

I bought it when it was first at Deadwood for Halloween over a year ago for 20k.
The rarity of it being a 20k+being over a year old down the drain.

why dont you just resell every old unsold hat at nexus...thanks for undercutting your old and loyal players

oh and the cap n mask is once again present, ruining it for anyone who was around for snowtown

Posted by Rexx

or when the hood was a prestigious hat only won in spar...

Posted by TylerMyste

I was very pissed off when I saw all the hats I loved sold for a much lower price then when I bought them. It's bad enough they were in there, but the fact that the items prices were much lower made it even worse. I know its Black Friday and everything, but couldn't they have used new hats instead of old ones? I'm sure many people were angry to see this.

Posted by MattKan

Yeah, I can understand why players are angry.

Not only are the prices unreasonable, but they pay $10-20 for stuff and then it gets resold for $1.

That's ridiculous to begin with, and even more ridiculous after the price drop!

Yes, people don't like the high prices, but make new hats instead of reselling old hats!

This is the first legitimate scam on the server because at least you knew what you were getting in the past when you paid a high price! But now your $10 or however much you spent is down the drain. Way to ruin the server.

Posted by Mr.Simons

I raged over this so much!!!!!!!!!!!! It seems all my favorite hats are being resold at low prices... The only thing I enjoyed was completing my octopus collection. Other than that I was pissed!

Posted by MattKan

I would personally never spend iTunes money to buy hats, but for thise who did, they got scammed big time because of the staff team failing to produce new items. They have every right to be angry. No, it's not the staff team's fault and we can't call them lazy because they volunteer and don't get paid, but this tarnishes the reputation of the app. Big time. And that becomes Stefan and Unixmad's problem and by extension Xor's if he really does get paid

And an image of 19 votes that agreed with this:
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/9223/votes.png (Unsupported image host)

Seriously... Where the hell are you going with this? It feels like you ran out of new content to keep us busy while working on your new updates, which to be honest, half of them sucks.

Im really disappointed... Not only the rarity of those proud to wear and to show how long they have been playing for iClassic for cheap/free, but it shows that you admins are not putting effort in your work at all. Even though its black friday, doesn't mean you take the very oldest of hats and sell them for very cheap. You're not making new hats for nexus but you re-sold the same four colored hoodies (With the horns) almost every saturday it opens.

F**k it... Im not gonna continue playing iClassic anymore if this keeps up... Im not going to achieve anything special because everything i achieved in the past through all my hard effort is now being sold for pennies.

I actually put my hard effort in work for 24 hours a day, 7 days a week just to get the gralats i purchased my hats with. I only get paid 20 dollars and thats to play for my school supplies and to pay for my forms to pass college. I hardly use my money to buy these itunes cards and i only purchase them for gralats. I spend most of my hours in the past slashing my farm till i get 2500 gralats (No bombs). Now this pretty much took all my hard work and tossed it all to the ground.

Its like what XBLA and PSN are doing. Selling content that was supposed to be an exclusive pre-order for a game.

I know you're not producing any content. You're just waiting for the holidays 1-3 weeks early just to make something new out of the blue. And the lava quest? marked for an early 2012 release? Not gonna happen. Its gonna be delayed or the quest is going to feel like a beta.

Those who are trying to defend on how these hats should be there and how everyone should have them pretty much destroy the uniqueness of these hats and pretty much aren't fun to have around anymore.. You're pretty much telling the admins that we shouldn't have new content anymore... and that everything players didn't have in the past should be here now... Which then makes it pointless for veterans to have fun in iClassic anymore... And you completely crash the iClassic Market as they will see a decrease..

Please leave a comment or something about this topic

 

I agree with what ever you said here I'm just to lazy to read it all  

I honestly think they just did it to piss us off.  

Now i being the person i am read through this and support you 100% on this subject its not fair they take our time and effort and sell it for a buck.  

Xor is going to create 50 accounts to vote up that it's ok in the poll.  

Raise of hands, how many of the above posters read the entire post, spoilers and all!  

In old Higbey fashion:
They're all lying, deceitful, cheating scumbags who only care about money and the player count. They only care about money spent on gralat packs so Stefan and Unixmad can go to more strip clubs and buy more hookers. Also, they're very lazy. New players won't know the difference and buy them up! No ideas? Just resell them! F**k Classic's current staff, we need better ones.  

Posted by Beholder

Raise of hands, how many of the above posters read the entire post, spoilers and all!

Lol! xD
You can read just the first 3 and you'll see where its going already!  

Frankly, I couldn't care less. I'm just sick of all of the complaining.  

Posted by Cat612

Frankly, I couldn't care less. I'm just sick of all of the complaining.

Im sick of it too but it needs to stop.
Im complaining because after all the times we've told them to stop (and yes, some of the staff actually agreed), they lied and kept doing it.

And the fact that its being focused on one group (the new people) not every group doesn't make it satisfying for all players to enjoy, which is why this thing needs to stop!

Rarity is focused on all groups because it shows those who put their hard effort into earning these hats. They're unique in their own way and they should not be sold for pennies.  

Posted by NYN

Yeah, get over it ya big babies!

 

I'm kind of swaying both sides now...

RE-SELL
When Nexus opened I was able to complete my Rainbow Octo collection. And I am an old player so shouldn't it be fine I buy it? And since it's right that I get a second chance to complete my collection shouldn't noobs have a chance too?

NO RE-SELL
I was around back in the day and spent my iTunes money on high priced "rare" hats. Now they are being re-sold at prices where you could earn the money in A RPS fight (notice how it's not plural). So how is this fair tax the veterans and reward the noobs?

So I guess it's there is logic on both ends of the argument.  

Posted by WarrLordd

.......

Posted by Mr.$imons

I'm kind of swaying both sides now...

RE-SELL
When Nexus opened I was able to complete my Rainbow Octo collection. And I am an old player so shouldn't it be fine I buy it? And since it's right that I get a second chance to complete my collection shouldn't noobs have a chance too?

NO RE-SELL
I was around back in the day and spent my iTunes money on high priced "rare" hats. Now they are being re-sold at prices where you could earn the money in A RPS fight (notice how it's not plural). So how is this fair tax the veterans and reward the noobs?

So I guess it's there is logic on both ends of the argument.

Im talking about the old items. Where they cost so much and they were so valuable to find. Octo hat barely passed a year so thats ok with me. I can't call it a year  

Right, it's totally fine if it's a hat that I don't have, but if I bought it before then it's a scam!!!11!  

Posted by Cat612

Right, it's totally fine if it's a hat that I don't have, but if I bought it before then it's a scam!!!11!

Then whats in it for the old players who already purchased the hat? They don't got anything to do in the update if they already have it

Again, these old hat updates are only being focused on the new players group of the game. An update is supposed to be focused around all groups that play this game

Edit: Btw, it is a scam when you sold it for 32k two years ago then for 1k this year. Its a huge difference