No, im not making a thread for a disscussion we have going on. For christ sake neo stop whining about how my idea is better. This is how ideas are made yo. Someone comes up with your concept in their hand and changes it and tweaks it a bit. All what im saying is ditch the whole multiple people thing, face the music. Its useless, instead make them one manned operated and free for everyone to use that way you don't have to waste $$$ on it. I like the idea of having artillery in zone, especially since zone is more military themed than era and classic. It would be different and completley different and a first in graal making zone more unique.

Posted by 5hift

Going off GIT's idea,

The weapon should randomly spawn on the map or else people would rush every single one of them on the map.

The occupying squad would have the upper hand because they've been holding the map for a while (probably) and have everything held down including the artillery weapon.

No, there would be multiple ones placed around the map by bases (except for conquest and spring, no artillery there). Also a few scattered around not very close to bases but more near respawn bases. The artillery would probably be used most effective for attacking, not defense. This would add in a whole hell of a lot more strategy to bases.  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

No, im not making a thread for a disscussion we have going on. For christ sake neo stop whining about how my idea is better. This is how ideas are made yo. Someone comes up with your concept in their hand and changes it and tweaks it a bit. All what im saying is ditch the whole multiple people thing, face the music. Its useless, instead make them one manned operated and free for everyone to use that way you don't have to waste $$$ on it. I like the idea of having artillery in zone, especially since zone is more military themed than era and classic. It would be different and completley different and a first in graal making zone more unique.



No, there would be multiple ones placed around the map by bases (except for conquest and spring, no artillery there). Also a few scattered around not very close to bases but more near respawn bases. The artillery would probably be used most effective for attacking, not defense. This would add in a whole hell of a lot more strategy to bases.

I never said it was better.
I was just thinking it would be cool to have a Finishing Cannon.  

I like where this idea is going, but i'm still confused on its purpose. Kill players? Capture bases? and its alot of people your asking to be online together at the same time that have 5 seperate parts.
???? can you give more details  

Posted by Chimi

I like where this idea is going, but i'm still confused on its purpose. Kill players? Capture bases? and its alot of people your asking to be online together at the same time that have 5 seperate parts.
???? can you give more details

For example, it's a finishing cannon.
Someone's giving your squad trouble?
Combine the parts and unleash a wide laser beam of death.  

would it automatically kill or is it high damage.  

which one you talking about? OPs version is 5 people come together, make a big gun, then unleash OP havoc (frankly this makes sense since 5 people is a lot of cooperation). Or are you thinking of my version of this where it is an artillery cannon that does massive damage and can one hit kill.

Also I did think about a way to incorporate the 5 people thing. My proposal is we use my set up, the fixed artillery guns around the map that can be operated by one person. Now this is where the other people come in. You can buy 5 parts that boost the effectiveness of the howitzer.
1 Flare gun: Once one of these are shot, it will pop up on the gunners map as a target to open fire on. These would work like grenade launchers but you can select where you shoot them. You can call in 2 types of artillery, Normal and Chemical.

2: Chemical Strike: With this you can ask for a chemical artillery strike. The Chemical weaponry is ONLY allowed to the gunner if another person uses one of these. The chemicals affect EVERYONE (including teammates) The gas deals huge damage by slowing, confusing, and damaging people. The chemical strike flares only last for 45 seconds and the gunner is allowed 15 chemical explosions. Chemicals take 5 seconds to spread to the maximum range and only one hit kill if the shell lands on some unfortunate player, does not do splash damage. These recharge once every 120 seconds.

3 Radio: This opens up a channel that you can directly chat with the gunner in another chat room (NOT PMS AND NOT IN THAT USUAL SPOT WHERE PMS ARE). Each cannon have their own chat channel (gun 1=chat room 1 etc). You may ONLY chat with gunners in your squad in that channel and it will only show up to the radio user and the gunner.

4 Espionage device: This device allows other people who are in those bases you can go inside to hack into the chat channel that the gunner and radio user are on. This ONLY works inside of those bases you can go into and the chat is sent directly to you like you were in the chat room. Channels that are being hacked have no clue if an act of espionage is going on.

5: request armor support. This is a device like a watch that brings up a map. On this map its the same map as a gunners map, BUT they can not see every ones movement like the gunner can. You select where you want the armor. Then the info is sent directly to the gunner. They proceed to launch a flare. Armor appears there 15 seconds after the flares are landed. Now you can run up to the armor and activate them. To do this, you just grab the armor you called in. They will proceed to follow you like pets. If the user dies then the armor stops where they are and may not move until the player grabs them. Note: once you activate a tank, its PERMANATLY ON. It can not shut down. These regenerate 60 seconds after the last tank alive is destroyed.  

For a balanced group gun like this it may seem like one hit kill type thing but maybe this could be its properties

-The gun will shoot a wide beam with a range of about 40 Tiles in that range it shoots a beam that does about 15 damage per second the damage will be calculated on how long the player is exposed to its laser radiation or the beam itself the player will not be put in a hurt gani when hit so it gives them time to escape depending on how wide the laser will shoot.  

Posted by Bleck3v3

For a balanced group gun like this it may seem like one hit kill type thing but maybe this could be its properties

-The gun will shoot a wide beam with a range of about 40 Tiles in that range it shoots a beam that does about 15 damage per second the damage will be calculated on how long the player is exposed to its laser radiation or the beam itself the player will not be put in a hurt gani when hit so it gives them time to escape depending on how wide the laser will shoot.

YES  

Posted by Bleck3v3

For a balanced group gun like this it may seem like one hit kill type thing but maybe this could be its properties

-The gun will shoot a wide beam with a range of about 40 Tiles in that range it shoots a beam that does about 15 damage per second the damage will be calculated on how long the player is exposed to its laser radiation or the beam itself the player will not be put in a hurt gani when hit so it gives them time to escape depending on how wide the laser will shoot.

nah one hit kill if you're doing all 5 people = 1 gun. Slow down the users by 75% and shoot just a ton of bullets off at once. long reload time, if one person dies while using the gun everyone dies.  

Posted by Bleck3v3

For a balanced group gun like this it may seem like one hit kill type thing but maybe this could be its properties

-The gun will shoot a wide beam with a range of about 40 Tiles in that range it shoots a beam that does about 15 damage per second the damage will be calculated on how long the player is exposed to its laser radiation or the beam itself the player will not be put in a hurt gani when hit so it gives them time to escape depending on how wide the laser will shoot.

Holy ****ing cow, would be enough to draw me back into my iPad Mini.  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

nah one hit kill if you're doing all 5 people = 1 gun. Slow down the users by 75% and shoot just a ton of bullets off at once. long reload time, if one person dies while using the gun everyone dies.

Considering there are 5 people holding a giant laser gun I would say they would all be unable to move considering the fact that I have never seen anything where players are controlling 1 item and can all control it movements aswell. I do like the idea if 1 link is destroyed all the others are too since it is a group effort.  

Posted by Bleck3v3

Considering there are 5 people holding a giant laser gun I would say they would all be unable to move considering the fact that I have never seen anything where players are controlling 1 item and can all control it movements aswell. I do like the idea if 1 link is destroyed all the others are too since it is a group effort.

then why not make one of the parts you pick up moveable and whoever has the part controls the movement of the cannon. Stationary wouldn't work because then they would just be recked.  

Posted by Ghettoicedtea

then why not make one of the parts you pick up moveable and whoever has the part controls the movement of the cannon. Stationary wouldn't work because then they would just be recked.

Ofcourse one of the parts can be guns and some other features aswell can be implemented so that each part can be used when not in the group gun combination. Lets say one gun is the "The actual gun" it wouldn't shoot the Giant laser but regular bullets and only shoots giant laser only when combined with the other parts. one can be a small shield that works the same when attached or detached, but can have a bigger boost when attached no approximate protection number made. Maybe another could be a separate weapon such as a melee not sure what special feature it would have but I guess for Neo's main concept he probably was thinking that and etc..  

Posted by Bleck3v3

Ofcourse one of the parts can be guns and some other features aswell can be implemented so that each part can be used when not in the group gun combination. Lets say one gun is the "The actual gun" it wouldn't shoot the Giant laser but regular bullets and only shoots giant laser only when combined with the other parts. one can be a small shield that works the same when attached or detached, but can have a bigger boost when attached no approximate protection number made. Maybe another could be a separate weapon such as a melee not sure what special feature it would have but I guess for Neo's main concept he probably was thinking that and etc..

So a small, sort of, security pistol if you will, that combines with the parts?