Posted by Coco

Still kind of a **** move nonetheless.

Every smart, large business does this because it saves money legally. It's not their fault that those loopholes are there.  

Posted by PigParty

not sure if I'm late but Trump didn't do anything illegal by not paying federal income taxes. He just used one of the many loopholes available in the tax code that your representatives had set at the time.

Yes but it's morally wrong and is taking away money that goes towards the country. If he wants to make America great again then why is he not contributing to it like everyone else?

Posted by Fulgore

Every smart, large business does this because it saves money legally. It's not their fault that those loopholes are there.

Large businesses are there to make money, it's understandable why they do it. People on the other hand have morals, although it's pretty obvious Trump doesn't.  

Posted by Vendetta

Yes but it's morally wrong and is taking away money that goes towards the country. If he wants to make America great again then why is he not contributing to it like everyone else?



Large businesses are there to make money, it's understandable why they do it. People on the other hand have morals, although it's pretty obvious Trump doesn't.

Morally wrong? The government wastes your money on enough garbage and now he might have the option to do something about all of it.
I don't see why you people act like he's some sort of evil because of this lmao, pretty sure everyone would do the same in his shoes  

It's morally wrong to follow the tax code that the Democratic candidate has allowed her mega-donors to abuse for the past X amount of years?

Trump can and will fix it. He has no reason not to. If he didn't want to, he could just as easily sit out of this election and continue to avoid paying millions in taxes while remaining a billionaire. If anyone thinks his candidacy is financially motivated, I'd like for you explain to me how that makes sense. It's not even an argument that Clinton's is, it's proven fact.

Posted by Vendetta

Large businesses are there to make money, it's understandable why they do it. People on the other hand have morals, although it's pretty obvious Trump doesn't.

Right, it'd be more moral of him to accept millions and millions in pay-to-play funding from countries that have no concept of basic human rights.

If anyone thinks for a second that Qatar's $1m donation to the Clintons, written off as a "birthday present for Bill," comes without strings attached then you're kidding yourself. Sharia law rules Qatar. Flogging and stoning are legal. Forced labor and human trafficking are epidemics there. I bet they just sent Bill a $1m check out of the goodness of their heart, right? So yeah, no one supporting Clinton should be bringing up morality when it comes to where they get their money.  

He definitely has a vendetta against Trump.  

Posted by Fulgore

Every smart, large business does this because it saves money legally. It's not their fault that those loopholes are there.

This is actually not true at all but again I'm backing away from this legit crazy thread. Love u fulgy  

Posted by James205

This is actually not true at all but again I'm backing away from this legit crazy thread. Love u fulgy

smart large business  

Posted by Fulgore

smart large business

LOVE U FULGLORY EVEN IF UR WRONG  

Same as smart poor to middle class people abuse welfare/food stamps.  

Posted by Eugeen

Morally wrong? The government wastes your money on enough garbage and now he might have the option to do something about all of it.
I don't see why you people act like he's some sort of evil because of this lmao, pretty sure everyone would do the same in his shoes

I don't think he's evil, it just shows he cares more about himself than the country.

Believe it or not the government doesn't just burn the money they get from taxes, they invest it into the economy and into the country. Some investments are good and some can be bad, but it does a better job than Trump spending his money on foreign imports. If taxes are as bad as you say then why doesn't he just leave the loopholes open so no one has to pay?

Posted by Thallen

It's morally wrong to follow the tax code that the Democratic candidate has allowed her mega-donors to abuse for the past X amount of years?

Trump can and will fix it. He has no reason not to. If he didn't want to, he could just as easily sit out of this election and continue to avoid paying millions in taxes while remaining a billionaire. If anyone thinks his candidacy is financially motivated, I'd like for you explain to me how that makes sense. It's not even an argument that Clinton's is, it's proven fact.


Right, it'd be more moral of him to accept millions and millions in pay-to-play funding from countries that have no concept of basic human rights.

If anyone thinks for a second that Qatar's $1m donation to the Clintons, written off as a "birthday present for Bill," comes without strings attached then you're kidding yourself. Sharia law rules Qatar. Flogging and stoning are legal. Forced labor and human trafficking are epidemics there. I bet they just sent Bill a $1m check out of the goodness of their heart, right? So yeah, no one supporting Clinton should be bringing up morality when it comes to where they get their money.

I'm not arguing that Hillary is moral. You've supported Trump from the beginning, every stupid thing he says you seem to have defended and given excuses for. You're even arguing that tax avoidance isn't a wrong thing to do...

I don't think Trump is financially motivated, you're right saying when you say he could make more money by not running. But I don't think he's motivated by wanting to make the country better, I mean I can't think of one example where he's done something genuinely shows that he cares about the country. Would he not pay his taxes if he wanted to reduce the debt or get the economy going? Would he not source his steal locally rather than illegally importing it? Would he not source jobs from the US rather than foreign countries if he wanted to create jobs in the US? And I don't think you can just say it's a smart business move, there's a lot of firms that don't do it.  

Posted by Vendetta

Yes but it's morally wrong and is taking away money that goes towards the country. If he wants to make America great again then why is he not contributing to it like everyone else?
Large businesses are there to make money, it's understandable why they do it. People on the other hand have morals, although it's pretty obvious Trump doesn't.

If I didn't have to pay taxes, you can bet I wouldn't. I'm not saying it's a good thing to do, but if it's legal and involves money, anyone and everyone would do the same thing in that position. I'm not excusing other business practices he has used. His filing for bankruptcy really gets to me because of how it affected others. I don't really care about him making products in china and other countries. Many companies don't make them in America, and actually can't. Many that do end up struggling and have to move to other countries. Even if he could make it in America for just barely more than in other countries, I'm not sure he would. I'm definitely not saying he would help America if he could business-wise.

Honestly, though, if someone wants to criticize and dislike Trump, they should do it based on the **** he says, not because he didn't pay federal income taxes because he legally didn't have to.

Posted by Vendetta

I don't think he's evil, it just shows he cares more about himself than the country.

That's exactly why he's running for President. For his own ego. His legacy. Too bad he's too idiotic to leave a good legacy.

Posted by Coco

Still kind of a **** move nonetheless.

Yes, it is. But I'm pretty sure it's a **** move that anyone who had that chance would take.  

Posted by PigParty

If I didn't have to pay taxes, you can bet I wouldn't. I'm not saying it's a good thing to do, but if it's legal and involves money, anyone and everyone would do the same thing in that position. I'm not excusing other business practices he has used. His filing for bankruptcy really gets to me because of how it affected others. I don't really care about him making products in china and other countries. Many companies don't make them in America, and actually can't. Many that do end up struggling and have to move to other countries. Even if he could make it in America for just barely more than in other countries, I'm not sure he would. I'm definitely not saying he would help America if he could business-wise.

Yeah I completely agree, I would do the same - although neither of us are running for president and I don't think either of us would make a good one.

A lot of the stuff seems quite small but Trump's whole campaign is about making America great again, what has he done for the country to show that he wants to do this?

His business is massive, he could quite easily make his products in the US - they would just cost more. If he really cared about employment would he not produce all of his stuff in the US rather than elsewhere?

Posted by PigParty

Honestly, though, if someone wants to criticize and dislike Trump, they should do it based on the **** he says, not because he didn't pay federal income taxes because he legally didn't have to.

I think it's a big deal, he says he cares about the country but has avoided contributing to it through taxes.  

Why would you want to bring back jobs that companies can pay a Chinese man .23 cents on the hour to do? That stifles business. I would much rather add a tax on their imported products than try and force them to bring their workforce back to America.  

Who the hell is going to pay more taxes than they legally have to? No one. end of story.



The problem with making a "good" tax plan is that the federal budget is inversely related to economic growth. Trump wants major tax cuts, which will made a deficit budget and add to government debt; but it really will help our embarrassingly low GDP and inflation. Hillary wants to spike taxes on the highest income brackets, which will hurt large businesses; but even with a surplus budget, she will barely be scratching the surface of government debt.  

Posted by Vendetta

I don't think he's evil, it just shows he cares more about himself than the country.

Believe it or not the government doesn't just burn the money they get from taxes, they invest it into the economy and into the country. Some investments are good and some can be bad, but it does a better job than Trump spending his money on foreign imports. If taxes are as bad as you say then why doesn't he just leave the loopholes open so no one has to pay?



I'm not arguing that Hillary is moral. You've supported Trump from the beginning, every stupid thing he says you seem to have defended and given excuses for. You're even arguing that tax avoidance isn't a wrong thing to do...

I don't think Trump is financially motivated, you're right saying when you say he could make more money by not running. But I don't think he's motivated by wanting to make the country better, I mean I can't think of one example where he's done something genuinely shows that he cares about the country. Would he not pay his taxes if he wanted to reduce the debt or get the economy going? Would he not source his steal locally rather than illegally importing it? Would he not source jobs from the US rather than foreign countries if he wanted to create jobs in the US? And I don't think you can just say it's a smart business move, there's a lot of firms that don't do it.

I do not understand why Trump's tax is even relevant to Clinton's wrongdoings. You should know that what Clinton did are pretty bad too, such as the emails, Benghazi incident, and many more. In addition, her "friend" Obama did some dumb things too, such as sending 400 billion USD to some random country in CASH in AIRPLANE. So, if all of Clinton's close friends don't really have a good background, I'd go for Trump honestly. But who knows? Clinton could be a changed woman if she gets elected president and possibly get rid of our national debt? But who knows...