I argue with people about this all the time. I'm completely against the idea and I have a couple of reasons to back this up. This is NOT ment to offend anyone, and if you think otherwise please feel free to argue and ill do my best to show you the other side. Who knows, you might even change mine.

Ok so listen up, your 12 and have 2 dads, it's your first day of high school and your dads walk up with you. Everything is fine it's going well your making friends, until they see your dads. They'll consistently pick on this kid through high school: believe me, I've seen it happened to a boy in my class through high school, he was beaten up and teased for having two dads.

Now another reason, the whole point of a marriage is to unite two people of opposite sex. OPPOSITE not SAME.

Another reason, it's a pain in the but.

Last reason, once gays get there ways do you really think they'll just stop at that? Then they'll want same sex pregnancy to be legalised.

Good luck to you all, keep in mind I am a good arguer, no swearing or cussing aloud to prove your point please that's the only rule.  

You need a mom and a dad. Not two moms, not two dads.  

Posted by Tyler

You need a mom and a dad. Not two moms, not two dads.

Exactly, you need a balance.

If this is a success I might to these more often...  

Same sex marriage is fine. Marriage is a legal bond between two people. I personally don't see the issue of allowing people to marry. The only thing I can think about that might effect my country is taxes. I heard from someone a while back that married people in general are considered "one" financially and get breaks. With gay marriage legalized, those tax breaks would be huge, deminishing a large number of dollars coming in from taking single people. I don't care about the perks of marriage, nor do I hold a negative outlook.

Now morally, I am against the concept. However, living in one of many free societies on this planet, I can't think of one reason why I'd be "against" it. Marriage should be available to all people, same sex or not. It's discriminating to try and stop people. I can't stand some of these politicians who don't get the idea of a separation of church and state.

For the good of the state these politicians should realize that in a free society, anyone can choose athiesm and should have the right to. Do I like it? No. Am I going to ban atheism from law? No. Same sex marriage is on the same level. It's not a religious topic, yet all these people make it one. Marriage should be offered to all people, not just people of "religiously correct" orientations. It's a legal bond that people use to express their love for each other. Who are you or I to tell anyone who to love?

The issue of having two same sex parents is also ridiculous. It's a matter of "different" that mainstream people have a problem with. Yes, children coming from these households have a strong possibility of being bullied. It's something young people (and people who raise people) just can understand or cope with. It's the same type of issue with old school nerds and misfits in general. Now days they are being assimilated into the norm. I believe people with same sex parents will also be assimilated, but as messed up as it is, society will still be cruel.

So, I believe same sex households are fine too. It's society that has the problem. Kids will pick on kids and treat them like crap just for being different in any way. Sadly, that's grade school. Do I agree with it? No, not at all.  

Posted by Shock

Same sex marriage is fine. Marriage is a legal bond between two people. I personally don't see the issue of allowing people to marry. The only thing I can think about that might effect my country is taxes. I heard from someone a while back that married people in general are considered "one" financially and get breaks. With gay marriage legalized, those tax breaks would be huge, deminishing a large number of dollars coming in from taking single people. I don't care about the perks of marriage, nor do I hold a negative outlook.

Now morally, I am against the concept. However, living in one of many free societies on this planet, I can't think of one reason why I'd be "against" it. Marriage should be available to all people, same sex or not. It's discriminating to try and stop people. I can't stand some of these politicians who don't get the idea of a separation of church and state.

For the good of the state these politicians should realize that in a free society, anyone can choose athiesm and should have the right to. Do I like it? No. Am I going to ban atheism from law? No. Same sex marriage is on the same level. It's not a religious topic, yet all these people make it one. Marriage should be offered to all people, not just people of "religiously correct" orientations. It's a legal bond that people use to express their love for each other. Who are you or I to tell anyone who to love?

The issue of having two same sex parents is also ridiculous. It's a matter of "different" that mainstream people have a problem with. Yes, children coming from these households have a strong possibility of being bullied. It's something young people (and people who raise people) just can understand or cope with. It's the same type of issue with old school nerds and misfits in general. Now days they are being assimilated into the norm. I believe people with same sex parents will also be assimilated, but as messed up as it is, society will still be cruel.

So, I believe same sex households are fine too. It's society that has the problem. Kids will pick on kids and treat them like crap just for being different in any way. Sadly, that's grade school. Do I agree with it? No, not at all.

O ok so you are totally fine with giving away billions of dollars to your already failing country (America) to have these people united?

If it was that they only wanted to stop at same sex marriages (which I know for a fact they won't) then maybe it will be fine. I'm completely against 2 dads/mums because its unfair for the child, extremely unfair. And marriage is religion? Lol? It was started by religion and shouldn't be changed to your so called "State". and why do these people want a piece of paper saying they've been united (marriage certificate) anyway? You see that's the thing, they don't want just that.

And the thing that gets me is they protest so much when there is much more important things going on in the world, they should just get over it.  

Okay so

Posted by Era News

Ok so listen up, your 12 and have 2 dads, it's your first day of high school and your dads walk up with you. Everything is fine it's going well your making friends, until they see your dads. They'll consistently pick on this kid through high school: believe me, I've seen it happened to a boy in my class through high school, he was beaten up and teased for having two dads.

First of all, I don't see how this is a valid argument at all. This is called bullying, under the category of aggressive homophobic behavior. If someone is suffering like this, they should be helped, not pitied. Same as someone being bullied for being a minority race, a nerd, or any other reason. Should they stop being something they can't help being, just because it gets them picked on?

Things like this are happening because people aren't open minded to gays yet. It's the same situation as in the mid 1900s, when the first African American teens started attending all-white schools. People picked on them. They didn't understand. They weren't comfortable. They believed they were raised as children too differently from how they were. They thought these things, yet didn't believe they were racist. Do you think people should be secluded, or turned away because they fall under one category?

Posted by Era News

Now another reason, the whole point of a marriage is to unite two people of opposite sex. OPPOSITE not SAME.

When people get married, it's because they love each other. It's not because one is a girl, and one is a boy. I don't understand the idea of 'men and women balance each other out' either, because that completely depends on the personality of the individuals. It's the qualities of the person that balance the other out.

Posted by Era News

Another reason, it's a pain in the but.

lazy reason

Posted by Era News

Last reason, once gays get there ways do you really think they'll just stop at that? Then they'll want same sex pregnancy to be legalised.

This is already going on. I don't see a problem with it; if you're with the love of your life, and both of you want to build a family together, who's to say you can't? As for your concerns on how the child is raised, I addressed that among your concerns above.  

Posted by Latte

Okay so

First of all, I don't see how this is a valid argument at all. This is called bullying, under the category of aggressive homophobic behavior. If someone is suffering like this, they should be helped, not pitied. Same as someone being bullied for being a minority race, a nerd, or any other reason. Should they stop being something they can't help being, just because it gets them picked on?

Things like this are happening because people aren't open minded to gays yet. It's the same situation as in the mid 1900s, when the first African American teens started attending all-white schools. People picked on them. They didn't understand. They weren't comfortable. They believed they were raised as children too differently from how they were. They thought these things, yet didn't believe they were racist. Do you think people should be secluded, or turned away because they fall under one category?

When people get married, it's because they love each other. It's not because one is a girl, and one is a boy. I don't understand the idea of 'men and women balance each other out' either, because that completely depends on the personality of the individuals. It's the qualities of the person that balance the other out.

lazy reason

This is already going on. I don't see a problem with it; if you're with the love of your life, and both of you want to build a family together, who's to say you can't? As for your concerns on how the child is raised, I addressed that among your concerns above.

But unlike race, this can be helped! People don't get that, this bullying problem with go up if we allow it! It makes kids feel like crap, they don't want to go to school and they want to end their lives! Dude if this is allowed it would make the world much more bullied. And you think that a kid will go and tell a teacher, it's embarrassing enough but with this reason! No way dude no way! And they can't just go and say to there dads "Im getting bullied because you two are gay and decided to adopt me" they can't!

You cannot possibly be comparing this to race dude, it's two different things, unless you want to call homosexuals a different race.

And your obviously not thinking of the child when you say "Yeah build a family together" it's just wrong dude. And as for balancing it out I liked to talked to my mum about different things to I talked to my dad about, if I couldn't do that I would probally be lost. You need a boy role model and a girl role model!  

Posted by Shock

....Marriage is a legal bond....

No, marriage is very much a religous institution.  

so you said, when there are bullies and theyre bullied people (lets take 'x' for the bullies and 'y' for the bullied people) if there is x, you would take y so there is no bullied kid anymore, but there is still the bully. if you take x away, there are the bullied kids, wich aren't bullied anymore and no more bullies. So homosexual mariage should be allowed.

sorry for my bad language i really suck at english  

Posted by Era News

But unlike race, this can be helped! People don't get that, this bullying problem with go up if we allow it! It makes kids feel like crap, they don't want to go to school and they want to end their lives! Dude if this is allowed it would make the world much more bullied. And you think that a kid will go and tell a teacher, it's embarrassing enough but with this reason! No way dude no way! And they can't just go and say to there dads "Im getting bullied because you two are gay and decided to adopt me" they can't!

You cannot possibly be comparing this to race dude, it's two different things, unless you want to call homosexuals a different race.

And your obviously not thinking of the child when you say "Yeah build a family together" it's just wrong dude. And as for balancing it out I liked to talked to my mum about different things to I talked to my dad about, if I couldn't do that I would probally be lost. You need a boy role model and a girl role model!

Did you seriously say you can change your sexual orientation. You're severely delusional, as there is literally zero debate that sexual orientation is genetic. Its been proven scientifically countless times. What you are saying is nonsense, and these people should have the ability to be who they are regardless of what society thinks of them. Your only point you are getting at is purely psychological and cultural standards, you keep saying that it is embarrassing to have gay parents and this may effect the mind of their child, how is that any different from being embarrassed to be black in an integrated school back in the 1950s? Because this time the child is being adopted?

Nonsense, millions of heterosexual parents adopt children as well. That has no grounds, and again, your only coherent point is that people may get embarrassed. If anything, your point swings towards being in favor of supporting gay marriage. We must break free of this prejudice because its a prejudice. Its exactly like racism in every single way, you have no points and your grammar is horrid.

I can't believe you said you were a good debater, you are a homophobe and you're full of yourself.  

Posted by WizaRD

so you said, when there are bullies and theyre bullied people (lets take 'x' for the bullies and 'y' for the bullied people) if there is x, you would take y so there is no bullied kid anymore, but there is still the bully. if you take x away, there are the bullied kids, wich aren't bullied anymore and no more bullies. So homosexual mariage should be allowed.

This made absolutely no sense.  

Posted by Era News

But unlike race, this can be helped! People don't get that, this bullying problem with go up if we allow it! It makes kids feel like crap, they don't want to go to school and they want to end their lives! Dude if this is allowed it would make the world much more bullied. And you think that a kid will go and tell a teacher, it's embarrassing enough but with this reason! No way dude no way! And they can't just go and say to there dads "Im getting bullied because you two are gay and decided to adopt me" they can't!

Both race and orientation are categorization. Labels. People are treated differently depending what they're labeled as.

You act as though female + male marriages are the only way to have a perfect marriage. Let me throw some facts at you.

1.Number of U.S. troops killed in Afghanistan and Iraq: 6,614

2. Number of women, in the same period, killed as the result of domestic violence in the US: 11,766

3. Estimated number of children, worldwide, exposed to domestic violence everyday: 10,000,000

4. Number of women in the U.S. who report intimate partner violence: 1 in 4

Let's see.. That would mean approximately 35,842,085 women (edit: in the US) have reported their husband for beating her at least once before. How many more problems do you you think that causes for the children? Depression, a broken self esteem, and possibly getting beaten by the abusive parent as well. Things that usually lead to bullying at school, thus starting the cycle of mocking and self hate. How many of those do you think are adopted? Is it fair to them?

115,064 -- Number of same-sex couple households in the U.S. with children, according to the U.S. census.

And you think same sex marriage is the definitely the biggest issue here? Also, the facts are hyperlinked if you'd like to see where they came from. The sites where they came from may also have source links.

Posted by Era News

And your obviously not thinking of the child when you say "Yeah build a family together" it's just wrong dude. And as for balancing it out I liked to talked to my mum about different things to I talked to my dad about, if I couldn't do that I would probally be lost. You need a boy role model and a girl role model!

So every child that grew up with a single mother, or a single father, had a completely screwed up childhood? Children of gay parents definitely have things they can only talk about to one parent vs the other. Whether or not the parent is a woman or man won't matter. Also, the child will meet plenty of other role models in their lives; it's not as though they completely rely on their parents to learn the ways of the world.  

I'm not even going to try and participate in this arguement seeing as nobody seems to have any valid reasoning besides what they have blindly accepted and think is their own belief.  

Posted by Era News

I argue with people about this all the time. I'm completely against the idea and I have a couple of reasons to back this up. This is NOT ment to offend anyone, and if you think otherwise please feel free to argue and ill do my best to show you the other side. Who knows, you might even change mine.

Ok so listen up, your 12 and have 2 dads, it's your first day of high school and your dads walk up with you. Everything is fine it's going well your making friends, until they see your dads. They'll consistently pick on this kid through high school: believe me, I've seen it happened to a boy in my class through high school, he was beaten up and teased for having two dads.

Now another reason, the whole point of a marriage is to unite two people of opposite sex. OPPOSITE not SAME.

Another reason, it's a pain in the but.

Last reason, once gays get there ways do you really think they'll just stop at that? Then they'll want same sex pregnancy to be legalised.

Good luck to you all, keep in mind I am a good arguer, no swearing or cussing aloud to prove your point please that's the only rule.

i to do not agree with gays tbh in fact hate it! there i a reason why we have a ***** and a vigina ( to continue the population and the world) not if we where all to go gay the world will die because lack of sex. (all i am saying is gays could kill the world, yes they might be nice people but still lets be honest here)  

My official last statement on this thread :

So from what I'm hearing from you people is just because a person decides that gay marriage is right, it instantly is justifiable? Humans apparently have the right to create their own morals? That means that since terrorists believe that killing others for their God is right that we shouldn't mind it. So is there really any 'right' or 'wrong'?