Posted by Fireenn

I can say that all the ban times are based on what the person is being banned for and if there are any multiple offenses for the same reason. 1 year bans are like saying we gave you multiple chances to clean up your act but you persistently continued to do the bad thing you were doing over and over again

I've been told they both have no prior bans. Unofficially by Deaon.

David K Graal ‎Deaon and Imp, were either of you banned in the past, and if so how many times?
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Imp Graal oh and just so u all know we are not complaining about getting banned, because what we did we deserve it. It's just the time differences that we are a bit shocked about, to make it fair they should of given me a year to and then we can end all this.
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Paulì Graal the staff team should be loyal and give friends the same penalty as unknown players than they should learn that they have to play on the rules.
2 hours ago · Like

Lyran Graal What really happened is, admins have mean sisters.
about an hour ago · Like

Imp Graal Dave K to answer your question I have never been banned as for deaon a.k.a flea I don't believe he has never been banned Eva.
about an hour ago · Like

David K Graal David K?, and thank you. :o
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David K Graal So you agree that cursing should be a year banned?
Because I'm not sure everyone else on Graal would feel good about that since I'm sure many people do it. Might be pretty bad for Graal too if that was the time. Then shouldn't harassment be more than a year? Hacking, glitching and scamming also seems more of an offense than cursing as well...
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It is fine, if it would have been crappy I believe the "higher powers" would have changed it, or kicked the staff who banned wrong everytime.  

Posted by Quinoa

It is fine, if it would have been crappy I believe the "higher powers" would have changed it, or kicked the staff who banned wrong everytime.

Would the feel obligated to change it if something were wrong?
I mean to say that I am asking you if you believe they would spend time in fixing something if it were only affecting, estimating I guess 300 people?, in the last two years of having 8000+ people.  

Posted by David K?

I've been told they both have no prior bans. Unofficially by Deaon.

David K Graal ‎Deaon and Imp, were either of you banned in the past, and if so how many times?
2 hours ago · Like

Imp Graal oh and just so u all know we are not complaining about getting banned, because what we did we deserve it. It's just the time differences that we are a bit shocked about, to make it fair they should of given me a year to and then we can end all this.
2 hours ago · Like

Paulì Graal the staff team should be loyal and give friends the same penalty as unknown players than they should learn that they have to play on the rules.
2 hours ago · Like

Lyran Graal What really happened is, admins have mean sisters.
about an hour ago · Like

Imp Graal Dave K to answer your question I have never been banned as for deaon a.k.a flea I don't believe he has never been banned Eva.
about an hour ago · Like

David K Graal David K?, and thank you. :o
5 minutes ago · Like

David K Graal So you agree that cursing should be a year banned?
Because I'm not sure everyone else on Graal would feel good about that since I'm sure many people do it. Might be pretty bad for Graal too if that was the time. Then shouldn't harassment be more than a year? Hacking, glitching and scamming also seems more of an offense than cursing as well...
4 minutes ago · Like

Depends on the ban type like VIP scamming excessively hacking and severe vulgarity to a very high degree can get you banned for a very long time

And to include an IP ban is usually given out when a person is avoiding their ban and therefore given the same time as the account ban or more

Also david you do not know if he is lying or not he can just be saying that just to get out of his ban.
people say this to me all the time and when i check their ban history comes up as a big list from time to time

Posted by LavaClaw

No, we still jail o-o
iClassic removed jail though. That's why we see all these short-length bans.

Way back when before the jail system just blew up, when we went to go ban someone it would be the same time as a jail time. when there was a jail, jail time would only go up from 15mins - a day while the ban system ban time went from a day to a year.

on another note i think the jail is a lot better than being banned, cause you were actually able to pm people instead of looking at a screen with the reason you are banned type of ban a timer of how long till your ban is over and a feedback button.  

needs to be redone, using a more strict and automated system to make it more fair and so the ability to set custom bans is gone, theres reasons, they set one as the ban reason, if youve been banned for that reason before it increases the time, if not it sets it at the set time for that offense, the rules and punishments for each rule should be on a board on the info kiosk for players to see.


this systems would be easier, make it so bans are more fair, so if the ban reasons were wrong you know that the staff that did it is abusing and its not like with custom ban times where they can argue how its justified to ban them for that time.

basically, no more "i didnt know it was against the rules!" no more "the ban time was unfair" no more "ABUSER!"

as for the arguement that custom bans are for situations that are different, and not all fit in a catergory, if its not within a category of things against the rules, if its not stated as against the vague large rules in the rules board then you cant ban for it.

fair, and it would work, sad staff wont give up any power whatsoever even if it was so a better system can be added.  

Posted by Ace

it's gunna get locked anyways...

Why would we lock a thread discussing in-game issues? The point of a forum is to talk about the game.  

i believe the bann system is fine! although i voted for the second because i believe that 1 year bans are too harsh... members should be banned for less time so they can rethink and act better no quit O.o  

Posted by Fireenn

on another note i think the jail is a lot better than being banned, cause you were actually able to pm people instead of looking at a screen with the reason you are banned type of ban a timer of how long till your ban is over and a feedback button.

You could never message people from jail. There would always be an error message saying "You can not send messages from jail!".

I think banning is more fair anyway, so I'm glad they removed the jail. It makes more sense to just disallow the player from playing, rather than make them destroy their iDevice's battery life by sitting there.  

Posted by Yephenpeace

You could never message people from jail. There would always be an error message saying "You can not send messages from jail!".

I think banning is more fair anyway, so I'm glad they removed the jail. It makes more sense to just disallow the player from playing, rather than make them destroy their iDevice's battery life by sitting there.

coulda just made it so the timer would work while offline, but i guess switching to bans made it so longer bans could be done....  

Yephenpeace i am not sure if i can agree! i have never been in jail do you have the opportunity to encounter with others there or are you just locked on a room alone ?  

Posted by Daphne

Yephenpeace i am not sure if i can agree! i have never been in jail do you have the opportunity to encounter with others there or are you just locked on a room alone ?

It was basically a big room of muted people. I just think banning makes more sense.  

Posted by Yephenpeace

You could never message people from jail. There would always be an error message saying "You can not send messages from jail!".

I think banning is more fair anyway, so I'm glad they removed the jail. It makes more sense to just disallow the player from playing, rather than make them destroy their iDevice's battery life by sitting there.

I think more players would actually be causing trouble if there was still jail. I myself tried to get in trouble when they still had it so I could get thrown in there lol. Yeah, there was no pming, but Firreen might have meant in-game chat which you could do. It's good they removed the jail so players are discouraged to cause mischief in the game and it's a better method for as you said it destroyed your iPod's battery.  

Yephenpeace and fireen since you post on thread i suggest that bann hours should have a limit! one year really is too much... banning role should be to make members rethink and come back as better graalians but one year bans just make them quit which is real sad:/ i talked a bit with flea and i think he did it just to show off and now has to quit. if the bann time was like 3 months he would come back and be more careful! Do you guys get my point ??  

Posted by Daphne

Yephenpeace and fireen since you post on thread i suggest that bann hours should have a limit! one year really is too much... banning role should be to make members rethink and come back as better graalians but one year bans just make them quit which is real sad:/ i talked a bit with flea and i think he did it just to show off and now has to quit. if the bann time was like 3 months he would come back and be more careful! Do you guys get my point ??

Yes, I understand your point completely. I don't know much about what Flea did, but most excessively long bans have good reasoning behind them. GPs don't go around banning people for a year, there needs to be some previous discussion and reasoning for anything over a few days.  

well its true that staff members dont ban fo no reason but , personally, i think that one year bans have rised in numbers and they should only been used for reasons like hacking the whole servers or something