people say trade system will just ruin era but lets analyse this shall we?
ok a very succesful game on facebook is yoville you can trade or whatever and theres price guides and stuff usually buying a tec9 for 40k you could sell it in trade for 30k it would help the buyer and the seller, next we have just plain old items, if some one said 1000 shovels for umbrella and the other guy said sure, they are both worried who will scam, adding a trade system wouldnt harm what stuff is worth, it will just make trades easier, C WUT I MEAN  

Its all about the moneyyyy.

If you add a trading system to trade items and weps people wont buy gralat packs anymore since theres a cheaper way to get what you want  

b.a.r selling for 150k!!! people will still buy gralat packs for 150k and you cant sell without buying in the first place.  

Ugh, here we go.. Lemme dig out a couple of my economics lectures real quick.

Posted by Agony

That is in a supply-and-demand economy with a finite amount of currency circulating. In an economy such as Era's with an unlimited amount of currency and supply, prices are static. With a trade system, the players will be able to capitalize and trade within themselves individually. When this happens, players that have no need of guns anymore (take the BAR for example), they will attempt to sell it for a fraction of the price, possibly 150k. When more and more trades like this happen, players will boycott buying from the shops, and start buying from the players that buy/resell BARs. Soon enough, the actual street price will be more like 140k-160k, or even lower, as opposed to the set 200k. When that happens, in-game stores will become useless. If you want to stabilize the economy while keeping a trade system intact, you will need to limit the supply of BARs that can be bought and circulated. This is another problem, as this leads to item hoarding.

Here's another good one from Street, going a little more in-depth.

Posted by Street

There will be players who would sell for less than 200k. These players are the ones who don't want the BAR anymore and would rather have/need the cash for a new gun or whatever reason.

The issue around a no trade system in the game is not because we can't develop a trade system, or the GUI for a trade system... it is because the developers don't want a free economy where players can capitalize in certain assets, whether it's gun or money. In an open market, the demand of the guns are determined by the supply of the guns (supply is infinite in our current system). Prices are set by the developers in our current system. If we allowed trading of guns, in the long run the prices of guns would greatly decline way below the shop prices. Which implies no one will buy from the shops, which implies that the money is only circulated between the players.

This is an issue for any game industry. If money circulates only between players, and players are constantly making money via shells/gralat packs, pretty soon we would have TONS of money supply in the economy. There are a few issues associated with this. If players can buy the gun cheaper off another player, they would not buy from the shop. This means the money spent on the gun REMAINS in the economy. In our current system where the player is forced to buy from the shop, the money DISAPPEARS when it is spent on shop items. This results in reducing money supply, thus increasing demand for money. Increased demand for money means players buy gralat packs, which means revenue for game developers.

Basically, less guns being bought from shops = less revenue for game developers. How to prevent that? Not allowing trades. By not allowing trades, players are FORCED to buy their guns from the shops. Again, when they do this, money is taken out of the economy since it just goes to the game server (rather than to another player). When the player wants another gun, he can't simply sell his old gun to gain money and buy another gun, he has to get money buy either working (shells etC), or buying gralat packs.

Why not just limit the supply of guns? ie have a set amount of guns in the economy? You'll run into problems with item hoarding, and the difficulty for new players to obtain new items. Difficulty for new players to compete with the current players, will drive playercount down, which results in a decline of revenue for developers. If you ever have the chance to check out PC Graal Kingdoms, is is a GREAT example in a failed economy. That game's main currency is not even used as the primary currency. It is not a coincidence...over the past decade, PC Era has had numerous server resets (due to inflation) and an uncontrollable economy. Graal Kingdom suffers from an overly inflated economy and item hoarding (nearly impossible for new players to get their hands on decent items, which drives them to stop playing).

I have said it before in the past, and I'll say it again. To prevent scamming without worsening the current economy, there should be a trade system implemented only for items that are currently drop-able (not guns).

Just because it's a game doesn't mean that modern-day economics principles and concepts cannot be applied to it. Please search the forums before posting, there's been about 20+ threads requesting a trade system; and in that respect, 20+ replies on why we cannot, and should not have one.

Posted by Street

I have said it before in the past, and I'll say it again. To prevent scamming without worsening the current economy, there should be a trade system implemented only for items that are currently drop-able (not guns).

 

yes im satisfied with droppable trades im not that greedy  

Posted by eric

b.a.r selling for 150k!!! people will still buy gralat packs for 150k and you cant sell without buying in the first place.

 

DIE THREAD!  

B.a.r, selling for 1 gralat!  

Posted by Shawn

B.a.r, selling for 1 gralat!

Will you accept 5 shells and two trash picks?  

Posted by Bas!

Its all about the moneyyyy.

If you add a trading system to trade items and weps people wont buy gralat packs anymore since theres a cheaper way to get what you want

No.  

I accept no crash. Come back next time with credit.  

I bet you weren't the first one taking this up..  

Posted by Quinoa

I bet you weren't the first one taking this up..

He isn't and there will be more in the future  

When I think of Stefan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-TSaH7T7_k  

Posted by Shawn

When I think of Stefan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-TSaH7T7_k

I was actually listening to that song than I paused and clicked this link and what do you know, same song =D great song