Posted by Gunderak

Well how about instead of being a prick saying mine is "pathetic" you go start your own thread.
And I am not an attention *****; you sir are the one doing that.
I was making this and still am to help the general community.
Your's is impractical and doesn't allow users to see what their own head/body looks like as it relies on files on the server.
I will continue developing my app and making it better.
And I somewhat doubt you did all that in one hour

That's a good point. I hadn't realized the goal was initially to allow people to view their own heads/bodies they were developing.

I made a new version in C# to help with that. It even automatically updates as soon as you hit save in your image editing program.

Here's an example. I scribble on the bitch in Paint.NET, then hit save, and it updates automatically. Then I undo it and hit save again.

Posted by Gunderak

I'm not interested in JavaScript and or CSS/HTML5.
Looking at the code would not benefit me.
And I wasn't throwing a tantrum; I was stating facts.

A sign of a good programmer is being language agnostic. The code would absolutely benefit you because it's more about the paradigm than the technical aspects or language-specifics.

-snipped the rest of my post, decided to make a new thread like you suggested-  

So as Bboy said, you are basically stealing my idea and then trying to make it slightly different.  

Posted by Gunderak

So as Bboy said, you are basically stealing my idea and then trying to make it slightly different.

Can you seriously just grow up and stop acting like a hormonal teenage girl? The guy is trying to help you, so stop throwing it back in his face.

Posted by Gunderak

So as Bboy said, you are basically stealing my idea and then trying to make it slightly different.

He never said that.

Posted by Downsider

That's a good point. I hadn't realized the goal was initially to allow people to view their own heads/bodies they were developing.

I made a new version in C# to help with that. It even automatically updates as soon as you hit save in your image editing program.

Here's an example. I scribble on the bitch in Paint.NET, then hit save, and it updates automatically. Then I undo it and hit save again.





A sign of a good programmer is being language agnostic. The code would absolutely benefit you because it's more about the paradigm than the technical aspects or language-specifics.

-snipped the rest of my post, decided to make a new thread like you suggested-

Fantastic work; I need to spread some rep.  

Aaron, I am NOT acting like a hormonal teenage girl like yourself.
And he isn't trying to help, he is trying to steal my project.
Then Graal Viewer will be known as "Oh Downsider made that".
And him caing my project "pathetic" isn't helping me in the slightest.
It's neither constructive criticism nor helpful.  

Posted by Gunderak

Aaron, I am NOT acting like a hormonal teenage girl like yourself.

Orly?

Posted by Gunderak

And he isn't trying to help, he is trying to steal my project.
Then Graal Viewer will be known as "Oh Downsider made that".

Downsider hasn't stolen your project. He made a gani viewer, you made a head, hat and body viewer(similar? sure... Downsiders serves a new purpose and coincidentally outshines yours).
For someone who isn't acting like a "hormonal teenage girl" you sure are getting mad or nothing...

Just chill out, stop crying and try further better your own project. There's still features Downsiders doesn't have that may be considered useful.  

I admit I was getting a tad mad but I wasn't acting like a hormonal teenage girl -_-
There was no grounds to call myself that.
Anywho I have made my windows version save an actual gif image when you right click whilst the character is walking.
I had to actually use another library and compile the library source and the app together to do so.
An example of a gif image exported from my app is in my signature.  

Well he may have overreacted some, but i get where he was coming from. Imagine if you were working on a painting for a long time and put some effort into it, showed it to your art class, and then someone came up the next day and showed a much better version of your painting that they made, and everyone was 'wowed' and forgot about your efforts. You see, hes not thinking about this just as a tool to serve graal regardless of who contributes to it, hes thinking about it as an art medium as well. And thats why hes getting so defensive, may it be a tad too much. Just trying to clear things up here  

Posted by Pimpsy G.

Well he may have overreacted some, but i get where he was coming from. Imagine if you were working on a painting for a long time and put some effort into it, showed it to your art class, and then someone came up the next day and showed a much better version of your painting that they made, and everyone was 'wowed' and forgot about your efforts. You see, hes not thinking about this just as a tool to serve graal regardless of who contributes to it, hes thinking about it as an art medium as well. And thats why hes getting so defensive, may it be a tad too much. Just trying to clear things up here

Right. I would be angry too if this was done to me. I really don't like how Downsider was dissing his work that really wasn't needed. Let alone posting his project on Gunderak's thread when it's about his project. To Gunderak, I know it's hard and difficult to see someone post another version of your work, but you need to be the more mature one about it. Think of it as a motivation to beat him. Keep working on it and don't give up.  

I wasn't insulting his program, I hadn't even tried it or seen it. I read through the thread and saw the discussion and thought it was a bad thread, not because of the program, but because of the interaction between Gunderak and the people posting in the thread. Especially on the page where people were talking about the gani format.. It's a plaintext format. It's not like you have to reverse engineer a binary format. It's really simple.

Anyway, Gunderak has a very poor track record among the veteran scripters of Graal, so it's not unreasonable to be prejudiced. In fact, it makes sense to be prejudiced.  

Posted by Downsider

I wasn't insulting his program, I hadn't even tried it or seen it. I read through the thread and saw the discussion and thought it was one of the worst threads I've read in a long time, not because of the program, but because of the interaction between Gunderak and the people posting in the thread.

Posted by Downsider

This is pathetic. I'll make an HTML5 gani viewer by the end of the day.

 

Let me clarify, again. Please read my whole post next time.

I wasn't insulting his program or his code or whatever. The pathetic part of the thread is the little screenshots that Gunderak was dropping all over the place just for the sake of showing off, and not showing off anything particularly impressive for that matter. It's attention whoring at its most blatant (Seriously, how did this thread get to page 11?) and it shows that he cares more about attention than contributing to the community.

Oh, and not releasing the source is another sign of not wanting to contribute. He wants to be the sole person credited for this, even at the cost of the rest of the community.  

Posted by Downsider

Let me clarify, again. Please read my whole post next time.

I wasn't insulting his program or his code or whatever. The pathetic part of the thread is the little screenshots that Gunderak was dropping all over the place just for the sake of showing off, and not showing off anything particularly impressive for that matter. It's attention whoring at its most blatant (Seriously, how did this thread get to page 11?) and it shows that he cares more about attention than contributing to the community.

Oh, and not releasing the source is another sign of not wanting to contribute. He wants to be the sole person credited for this, even at the cost of the rest of the community.

It's his thread, not yours. He can post screenshots of the program all over this thread. It also helps keep it alive and stops it from falling into the dead threads since if you edit your thread description people may not even see it where as to you put updates in posts people can view it easier. To me you sound jealous his thread has more views and responses.  

Posted by Tyler

It's his thread, not yours. He can post screenshots of the program all over this thread. It also helps keep it alive and stops it from falling into the dead threads since if you edit your thread description people may not even see it where as to you put updates in posts people can view it easier. To me you sound jealous his thread has more views and responses.

Hasn't the issue already been resolved? Stop feeding a fire that went out a while ago.  

Posted by Emera

Hasn't the issue already been resolved? Stop feeding a fire that went out a while ago.

Has it though? The posts are only a day old and it's obviously not resolved if he bothers responding to me. He doesn't have to say anything at this point. He can choose to ignore what I'm saying I don't care. I just wanted to point out why Gunderak was upset and how other people would be too.  

Posted by Tyler

It's his thread, not yours. He can post screenshots of the program all over this thread. It also helps keep it alive and stops it from falling into the dead threads since if you edit your thread description people may not even see it where as to you put updates in posts people can view it easier. To me you sound jealous his thread has more views and responses.

I just contribute because I like to help out a game that I've played for a while and still enjoy developing for. I'm not immature enough to be jealous.

All I'm saying is that he dragged out the project far longer than it should've, probably to get attention and rep. I don't like that. His track record shows he's immature and more interested in attention than anything else. You should see his earlier posts on the Graal scripting forums; insulting veteran scripters and asserting that his knowledge is superiour to theirs even with his heavy lack of experience.

Sorry, but I'm putting it in black and white. He's been a black sheep among the PC community for a long time, and just yesterday I got a message on MSN that said he stole system scripts from Delteria-- some of which aren't even Delteria's, but are donations from iClassic-- and uploaded them to his own server, and was promptly fired. Just because he has fanboys on Graalians and the iOS servers doesn't mean I'm going to ignore his previous behavior and start bandwagoning behind this guy. The fact he doesn't provide the source throws up a red flag coupled with his previously notorious behavior. I don't think he's included anything malicious, but it would be logical to assume he did. Sorry.