So the top guilds currently have a monopoly over the towers by owning them 24/7 without ever losing them. This can be solved not by hindering their ability to hold them, but by adding more. I think at least 5 more towers should be added to the map. Perhaps make 1 or 2 KOTH to please those who liked it as well as add to the ways to take towers. Start with 1 or 2 and keep adding more until it's possible for 4-6 people to take a tower.



The only problem is having multiple towers across the map without creating new areas would spam the map with pictures. New areas with shops and stuff could be added for room for towers. There is room in belle isle, north Graal city, and Onnet for towers.  

Would much rather see improvement designs so they actually have to work to hold the towers, instead of laughing as they respawn where they die and attackers respawn 20 seconds away.  

Posted by Ph8

Would much rather see improvement designs so they actually have to work to hold the towers, instead of laughing as they respawn where they die and attackers respawn 20 seconds away.

Mod was changed so that both respawn far away, and it's near impossible to defend it now as 20 different guilds try to take it and no one can defend it 5v40.  

Here's my master plan idea...

Step 1: Create a guild called Trollians and enable allies.
Step 2: Create sub guilds for Trollians.
Step 3: Recruit as many random people as you possibly can to them.
Step 4:

 

My guild took and defended it for a couple hours, since the changes, with only seven people. We only lost it cause people got bored and started idling. Wasn't very hard.

Posted by Skill

Mod was changed so that both respawn far away, and it's near impossible to defend it now as 20 different guilds try to take it and no one can defend it 5v40.

 

Another way to stop the big guilds holding towers constantly is to make your own guild and take it off them.  

I'm so sick of the people saying "omg, just work hard and attack them!"

The creators of this game did not anticipate guilds like COM, CJ, CXE, and Takaii (Inspired and Serene) taking towers, treating their members like slaves, and working "shifts" to hold the tower 24/7. The system is outdated and needs serious revision. The number of threads popping up on this should tell you that players are not happy, and that the admins are benefiting 4 guilds while pissing off everyone else on the server.

Even if a new guild is lucky enough to take one of these towers, which is nearly impossible even with a full roster and an ally helping you due to the outdated design of the towers (this ONLY happens if the big guild is AFK or something irregular), that guild will not be able to hold it 24/7. This means that the big guild will get the tower back around 2 or 3 AM EST, and then continue to hold it for weeks on end.

It's just not a fair system. These big guilds have every advantage, so why not make the towers they hold easier to take to give everyone else a fair fight?

And let me remind you, we are talking about four guilds. Four guilds. I can't, for the life of me, understand why admins want to help benefit four guilds over the rest of the entire playerbase.

Posted by Skill

Mod was changed so that both respawn far away, and it's near impossible to defend it now as 20 different guilds try to take it and no one can defend it 5v40.

It's a good example of how a small tweak can make a tower more fair. We need similar changes to all of the other towers.  

If you made towers easier to take, those guilds would continue to dominate. It doesn't only work one way, it'd be harder for other guilds to hold the forts themselves. What makes you think the big 3 (Takaii doesn't count, there's always a guild like them, Rebellious, etc springing up) wouldn't continue to exert their player advantage and shift system to hold these towers longer than everyone else?

There is no solution other than to work harder for the forts yourself.  

Posted by Pazx

If you made towers easier to take, those guilds would continue to dominate. It doesn't only work one way, it'd be harder for other guilds to hold the forts themselves. What makes you think the big 3 (Takaii doesn't count, there's always a guild like them, Rebellious, etc springing up) wouldn't continue to exert their player advantage and shift system to hold these towers longer than everyone else?

There is no solution other than to work harder for the forts yourself.

Then at least things would be fair. At least other guilds would have a fighting chance. Right now, there is NO fighting chance when the big guilds take their towers at 3:00 AM EST and hold them for months by scheduling shifts to work.

And if they had to work hard to hold them, versus just respawning, moving an inch, and continuing to block, then they likely would not want to or be able to hold the tower for 24 hours per day.

In other words, it is more tiring to actively defend a tower that is a bit vulnerable (MOD), rather than just move and block (Swamp).  

Posted by Bin

In other words, it is more tiring to actively defend a tower that is a bit vulnerable (MOD), rather than just move and block (Swamp).

I'd say that MoD has always been the hardest to defend because of the constant attacking, Castle being next in both frequency of attacks and difficulty to defend. It's harder to hold Sardon's under attack for hours than MoD with just a few PKers.  

Posted by Pazx

I'd say that MoD has always been the hardest to defend because of the constant attacking, Castle being next in both frequency of attacks and difficulty to defend. It's harder to hold Sardon's under attack for hours than MoD with just a few PKers.

You don't take towers much, do you? To say that Castle or Sardon's are hard to defend is laughable. Please reread my post as it actually contains suggestions of substance. I'm a bit baffled why you would respond with this line and ignore the important stuff.  

all of you stop whining. seriously. these threads are annoying and make you all sound like crying noobs.  

Posted by twilit

all of you stop whining. seriously. these threads are annoying and make you all sound like crying noobs.

What you characterize as "crying noobs" is a serious problem with this game. Players are not happy, and they have the right to let staff know about it.

Personally, I'm going to push this issue hard until something is done.  

Posted by Bin

You don't take towers much, do you? To say that Castle or Sardon's are hard to defend is laughable. Please reread my post as it actually contains suggestions of substance. I'm a bit baffled why you would respond with this line and ignore the important stuff.

I haven't really done it much in awhile, but I still know more than you. The big guilds would still come out on top with your suggestions, which is why I addressed another of your points. Defending a fort under attack is always hard, no questions about it. Instead of complaining, you should try and take these forts yourself.  

well its impossible to fix how other play the game. if you wanna be good, the you gotta fall down to their level and become a no-life like them. if you want to have a life, then you probably wouldnt care that much about a game.