Meditate is unfair - 3

Pazx · 07-13-2012

Even then it wasn't really, most people got caught before they healed more than 0.5.

Kendama · 07-13-2012

False ^

spades of feare · 07-13-2012

Posted by Higbey

Burgers are a limited item. No matter what you say you can't beat the fact that the meditate does something other ganis don't do, so it needs to be available via a quest or free.
I've already got it all set up, just gotta tell Rufus and Xor, you can't complain there aren't enough quests and lore and then try to stop a quest being made.

Players won meditate fair and square through gst. Any player can join gst therfore in a way it is accessable to everyone. And what is the plot of the quest then?

Posted by Furryamigo

If you have the coin flip gani, you can flip a coin while defending a tower. 50% chance you stay up by the flag safely, 50% chance you go down and get killed. OMG IT IS TOO POWERFUL! remove it from the game!

ROFL

Posted by Pazx

Even then it wasn't really, most people got caught before they healed more than 0.5.

At towers people do constantly heal with meditate all the way... I will say that

Imprint · 07-13-2012

Posted by Furryamigo

If you have the coin flip gani, you can flip a coin while defending a tower. 50% chance you stay up by the flag safely, 50% chance you go down and get killed. OMG IT IS TOO POWERFUL! remove it from the game!

Classic doesn't take much to be balanced and meditate isn't a huge advantage but it is an advantage that some players don't have acess to. Whether or not you think it matters isn't the issue.

Higbey · 07-13-2012

Posted by Imprint

Classic doesn't take much to be balanced and meditate isn't a huge advantage but it is an advantage that some players don't have acess to. Whether or not you think it matters isn't the issue.

thank you, thats what ive been saying its a great way to have a reward for a quest that isnt a useless gani or morph, if the rate isnt good enough, maybe it could be boosted on both items, as i was saying, yes people got the gst item fair and square, they can keep it, but a different version with the same healing effect needs to be available for free or via a quest, i already have a idea for it as part of a big connection for a actual storyline, ill explain that later, as the specifics dont matter and even if this isnt a official forum with a huge amount of players i still dont want to spoil it, and as such i think the quest itself wont be discussed here, as i dont know what the scripters could do, its really up to them, but the storyline is set up,

Tyler · 07-13-2012

Come on guys it's meditate. It takes much longer to heal with that than just using a bed or healing jars. It's not going to ruin the game. Also, the item IS available to players. It's available every guild spar tournament in the mystery gift boxes. If you decide not to enter you missed out. If you don't win round one than you didn't unlock it. It's not like this is an exclusive thing.

Yephenpeace · 07-14-2012

Yeah, some people can't seem to grasp that it was available to everyone. It was a prize for the GST. Yes, it absolutely does do something other ganis can't do, but the people in the GST won it fair and square. Judging by the responses in this thread, it honestly isn't a big concern.

They also sell food items for a reason. In my opinion, making a healing item that requires nothing to generate your health would negatively affect the game.

Higbey · 07-14-2012

Posted by Tyler

Come on guys it's meditate. It takes much longer to heal with that than just using a bed or healing jars. It's not going to ruin the game. Also, the item IS available to players. It's available every guild spar tournament in the mystery gift boxes. If you decide not to enter you missed out. If you don't win round one than you didn't unlock it. It's not like this is an exclusive thing.

requires participation in gst, as honestly i dont know why they even made the meditate available in the gst instead of making it a quest item, but since its now out it cant be taken away, so another item that can be gotten without being in a guild and available to everyone is necessary, also because of the limit on amount of guilds, and limit on ammount of players in each team, and the fact only half will make it to round 2, and even then you may not get it from the box, that makes it impossible for everyone to have a chance to get it.

nothing can change that, the effectiveness cant change that, there is no arguing against it, it effects gameplay and is not available to everyone, so a item doing the same as meditate needs to be released, its a matter of principle,

anyway, i have a good idea for the quest, connected to the plan for the new storyline,

Comyt · 07-14-2012

how meditate is unfair:
lets say i am attacking sardons tower.
that tower is extremely hard to attack, and me and my guild finally get to the roof and bring people to low health! we are now in a great position for wiping out their defenders and capturing the tower. after a long time of attacking, we get to the roof again, it is our chance! then, we hit them and it says "2.5" because they have been meditating. if they did not have meditate, we could have taken their tower. but they had meditate.

Higbey · 07-14-2012

Posted by Comyt

how meditate is unfair:
lets say i am attacking sardons tower.
that tower is extremely hard to attack, and me and my guild finally get to the roof and bring people to low health! we are now in a great position for wiping out their defenders and capturing the tower. after a long time of attacking, we get to the roof again, it is our chance! then, we hit them and it says "2.5" because they have been meditating. if they did not have meditate, we could have taken their tower. but they had meditate.

and thats why all players need the ability to get a item like meditate, even if it barely does anything, if it does something, there needs to be a quest or free item that can also do it,

iHot · 07-14-2012

It's just a gani towers are a challenge anyway. Suck it up 10 years from now you probably won't even know you played this game.

Tyler · 07-14-2012

Posted by Higbey

requires participation in gst, as honestly i dont know why they even made the meditate available in the gst instead of making it a quest item, but since its now out it cant be taken away, so another item that can be gotten without being in a guild and available to everyone is necessary, also because of the limit on amount of guilds, and limit on ammount of players in each team, and the fact only half will make it to round 2, and even then you may not get it from the box, that makes it impossible for everyone to have a chance to get it.

nothing can change that, the effectiveness cant change that, there is no arguing against it, it effects gameplay and is not available to everyone, so a item doing the same as meditate needs to be released, its a matter of principle,

anyway, i have a good idea for the quest, connected to the plan for the new storyline,

Oh for the love of... Okay the answer is simple. Participate in guild spar tournaments. You can't get quest items without participating in quests correct? Every single person on Graal has a chance to enter and win the guild spar tournament. The main question is are they good enough to make it to the part in which you receive the item? Yes, there are many items you can get in the mystery boxes. If you don't get meditate tough luck. Better luck next tourney. The point is the item IS available to everyone, but it is indeed difficult to achieve if you are not prepared to win the first round in the tourney or get the item in the gift boxes. Think of the item as one big quest itself.

iHot · 07-14-2012

Posted by Tyler

Think of the item as one big quest itself.

That one sentence sums it up.

Pazx · 07-14-2012

Posted by Tyler

Oh for the love of... Okay the answer is simple. Participate in guild spar tournaments. You can't get quest items without participating in quests correct? Every single person on Graal has a chance to enter and win the guild spar tournament. The main question is are they good enough to make it to the part in which you receive the item? Yes, there are many items you can get in the mystery boxes. If you don't get meditate tough luck. Better luck next tourney. The point is the item IS available to everyone, but it is indeed difficult to achieve if you are not prepared to win the first round in the tourney or get the item in the gift boxes. Think of the item as one big quest itself.

Here, take my internets.

<3

+1

spades of feare · 07-14-2012

Its available to everyone... All you have to do is enter the gst and not suck or go against US for one round

Can all the people stop complaining or go out and make the quest?

Posted by Tyler

Oh for the love of... Okay the answer is simple. Participate in guild spar tournaments. You can't get quest items without participating in quests correct? Every single person on Graal has a chance to enter and win the guild spar tournament. The main question is are they good enough to make it to the part in which you receive the item? Yes, there are many items you can get in the mystery boxes. If you don't get meditate tough luck. Better luck next tourney. The point is the item IS available to everyone, but it is indeed difficult to achieve if you are not prepared to win the first round in the tourney or get the item in the gift boxes. Think of the item as one big quest itself.

+1 for saying it all.

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Pazx amateur gay Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 3,372	Even then it wasn't really, most people got caught before they healed more than 0.5.

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Kendama Delteria Manager Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: USA Posts: 2,474	False ^

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Tyler Dark Desert Fox Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: United States, Ohio Posts: 5,720	Come on guys it's meditate. It takes much longer to heal with that than just using a bed or healing jars. It's not going to ruin the game. Also, the item IS available to players. It's available every guild spar tournament in the mystery gift boxes. If you decide not to enter you missed out. If you don't win round one than you didn't unlock it. It's not like this is an exclusive thing.

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Yephenpeace Love to all Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 1,406	Yeah, some people can't seem to grasp that it was available to everyone. It was a prize for the GST. Yes, it absolutely does do something other ganis can't do, but the people in the GST won it fair and square. Judging by the responses in this thread, it honestly isn't a big concern. They also sell food items for a reason. In my opinion, making a healing item that requires nothing to generate your health would negatively affect the game.

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Comyt Emperor Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New York Posts: 1,000	how meditate is unfair: lets say i am attacking sardons tower. that tower is extremely hard to attack, and me and my guild finally get to the roof and bring people to low health! we are now in a great position for wiping out their defenders and capturing the tower. after a long time of attacking, we get to the roof again, it is our chance! then, we hit them and it says "2.5" because they have been meditating. if they did not have meditate, we could have taken their tower. but they had meditate.

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iHot Graalian Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Belle Isle Posts: 4,481	It's just a gani towers are a challenge anyway. Suck it up 10 years from now you probably won't even know you played this game.