Itd take too much effort giving all the proof there is to a one-direction mind. obviously you arent going to change your belief even if someone took the time to write a novel here. this simply sounds like a christian-bashing thread and i consider it rather rude.

but to humor you with something easier to explain, i will prove theres no such thing as an atheist.

Atheists proclaim that God, or a god, does not exist. saying that something doesnt exist is what scientists call a "universal negative." to prove a universal negative, one must literally know EVERYTHING (omniscient). but wait! only God, or a god, can be omniscient. so by trying to prove that God doesnt exist (a universal negative), atheists are calling themselves gods for knowing everything. :0

MIND~>BLOWN  

hell, dont want to get involved on this, but this is how I look at it

 

Posted by twilit

Itd take too much effort giving all the proof there is to a one-direction mind. obviously you arent going to change your belief even if someone took the time to write a novel here. this simply sounds like a christian-bashing thread and i consider it rather rude.

but to humor you with something easier to explain, i will prove theres no such thing as an atheist.

Atheists proclaim that God, or a god, does not exist. saying that something doesnt exist is what scientists call a "universal negative." to prove a universal negative, one must literally know EVERYTHING (omniscient). but wait! only God, or a god, can be omniscient. so by trying to prove that God doesnt exist (a universal negative), atheists are calling themselves gods for knowing everything. :0

MIND~>BLOWN

Atheism is not a belief but a conclusion based on reasoning and the evidence provided (or lack of) that God isn't real. You don't have to live by Atheism as you do with religion.
I don't see where I'm bashing Christianity, you're only taking offence to it because it makes sense.  

Posted by Talon

I'm not saying I believe its true, I'm not saying I don't - I'd rather my religious outlook to be kept to myself. But, if they believe it, they believe it. That's their problem or choice to believe it or not. If they do, it's fact to them.

Although the one problem I do have is tolerating some ways of teaching religion. The idea supporting something as fact because you were brought up to believe it is as a child and nothing else is just not healthy. It's so easy to permenatley manipulate someones world view that way. If people want their child to be religious they should grow up and teach themselves to be religious. I was brought up to be Christian this way so I know how powerful this can be. I still shudder at the sound of the word "hell". It's almost like brainwashing.  

and the debate goes on....  

Posted by RaiRai

and the debate goes on....

I only jump in these things so often because i find debating fun. Lol.  

Posted by Pimpsy G.

Although the one problem I do have is tolerating some ways of teaching religion. The idea supporting something as fact because you were brought up to believe it is as a child and nothing else is just not healthy. It's so easy to permenatley manipulate someones world view that way. If people want their child to be religious they should grow up and teach themselves to be religious. I was brought up to be Christian this way so I know how powerful this can be. I still shudder at the sound of the word "hell". It's almost like brainwashing.

Well I guess you can say indoctrination is the most powerful propaganda tool in the world.  

Posted by Rexx

Atheism is not a belief but a conclusion based on reasoning and the evidence provided (or lack of) that God isn't real. You don't have to live by Atheism as you do with religion.
I don't see where I'm bashing Christianity, you're only taking offence to it because it makes sense.

you say you arent bashing but you seem rather intent to bat people down. why else would you post this?

and all religions live by faith (no proof needed), thats why theyre called "beliefs"

and just wondering, why do atheists target christianity when its a minority? there are over a billion muslims and no one addresses them.  

Posted by Talon

Well I guess you can say indoctrination is the most powerful propaganda tool in the world.

Yeah. I guess we're all indoctrinated into humanity though so its just a matter if what you are indoctrinated into. And wow I had a lot of typos in that last paragraph. I need to go to sleep its 2 AM.. xD  

Maybe because Christians are always targeting athiests.

Posted by twilit

you say you arent bashing but you seem rather intent to bat people down. why else would you post this?

and all religions live by faith (no proof needed), thats why theyre called "beliefs"

and just wondering, why do atheists target christianity when its a minority? there are over a billion muslims and no one addresses them.

 

im sorry? who started this thread? o ya rexx not me  

Posted by twilit

you say you arent bashing but you seem rather intent to bat people down. why else would you post this?

and all religions live by faith (no proof needed), thats why theyre called "beliefs"

and just wondering, why do atheists target christianity when its a minority? there are over a billion muslims and no one addresses them.

It's called debating and having a mildly intelligent back and forth conversation, I'm sorry you can't comprehend or handle that without it having to be an argument.

And man don't even get me started on Islam, I might actually start bashing at that point.  

Posted by twilit

you say you arent bashing but you seem rather intent to bat people down. why else would you post this?

and all religions live by faith (no proof needed), thats why theyre called "beliefs"

and just wondering, why do atheists target christianity when its a minority? there are over a billion muslims and no one addresses them.

Christianity has over 2 billion followers. It's not a minority. And to your atheist thing, I agree that atheism itself is irrational because the idea of a supernatural being is outside of all ways of thinking. But that doesn't mean all non religious people are atheist in any sense. I don't get why almost everyone assumes that. And the world atheist sounds so negative. I want to be called a detective or something. Lol.  

0-0 2billion is way incorrect im pretty sure. then again there are so many denominations... but anyway, lol at "detectives"  

Posted by Pimpsy G.

Christianity has over 2 billion followers. It's not a minority. And to your atheist thing, I agree that atheism itself is irrational because the idea of a supernatural being is outside of all ways of thinking. But that doesn't mean all non religious people are atheist in any sense. I don't get why almost everyone assumes that. And the world atheist sounds so negative. I want to be called a detective or something. Lol.

That's the disappointing thing :/
People see Atheism as not respectable or in some negative manner (can't find the proper wording for this).
I believe there are many Atheists who just don't realize they are yet and even more for Agnostics.

But what would you call someone who has no religion and no opinion on God? Dunno.