Posted by Higbey

I had a "I don't want to live on this planet anymore" moment when that idiot claimed smoking marijuana doesn't cause tar build up in your lungs.

Hold on dude, one i never called you anything so your gonna respect me like i respect others man, i'm no idiot.

Now i'm gonna get a little frank, Weed isn't addictive wanna know how? Because you can quit anytime you want, now you dont see people Sucking (Censored) for money do you? No exactly trust me i know what i'm talking about. And they call that K2 the stuff that has less or no THC in it but you can die from it  

Posted by Billy

You're kidding,right?

Marijuana has nothing in it that makes you addicted! Cigarretes do and it's called (Nick-o-teen) Don't know how it's spelled. But where do you guys get this balony from? Lung cancer?! Really? Marijuana(A plant) Doesn't give you lung cancer. o.o

You achieve a high and come back for more  

Just legalize it, who gives a **** if it kills people or not, less pot heads=good  

Posted by Billy

Nope,the smoke does. Nothing in the plant effects you in the future.

Inhaling too much smoke gives lung cancer.

And where does that smoke come from?  

Posted by Bulldogg Lucero

Hold on dude, one i never called you anything so your gonna respect me like i respect others man, i'm no idiot.

Now i'm gonna get a little frank, Weed isn't addictive wanna know how? Because you can quit anytime you want, now you dont see people Sucking (Censored) for money do you? No exactly trust me i know what i'm talking about. And they call that K2 the stuff that has less or no THC in it but you can die from it

No.. You don't know what you are talking about.


You can become addicted to anything, even activities and games, not just substances, you can become addicted to something like in in a daily routine, it becomes hard to break and you carve and have a withdrawal,

Same can happen with any drug, it's just very easy for some and not for others.

Companies also know once they get someone hooked, they get a regular customer, by putting both nicotine and the marijuana together they can make cigarettes just as addictive as the tobacco counterparts.  

I don't see how anyone could argue that Alcohol and Tobacco are substances that should be legal and Marijuana shouldn't be. It's really just another way to get "drunk" or "relieve stress" with valid medical uses as well.

Prohibiting things won't make it any better, it's been tried and it didn't work. I think people's fears of what might happen if pot is legalized is overblown, obviously there will be hype when it's legal but that will die down.

I think we will probably start to see it become legalized (state by state) when newer generations (who understand how silly the marijuana "ban" is) start gaining power in the government. By extension then perhaps other countries will start completely legalizing it as well due to the drop in pressure from the US government.  

The plant has nothing to do with it? Its just the smoke? What the hell do you think is in the smoke? Do you even understand combustion? It doesn't neutralize and make all burning matter into the same "smoke" and inhaling marijuana smoke doesn't have the same cancer risk as some other smoke, it depends on what's burning.


Burning wood? That smoke isnt as bad, but you shouldn't breath it in that much anyway, now cigarettes and marijuana? That's burning all the chemicals and pesticides and poisons and crap the companies that manufactur the cigarettes make, and even just the marijuana tobacco is still bad, it still leaves tar, it's still burning the leaves and flowers, it's still in the smoke.
Of course there's plenty of worse smoke fumes to breath in than just marijuana and tobacco.  

Posted by Higbey

No.. You don't know what you are talking about.


You can become addicted to anything, even activities and games, not just substances, you can become addicted to something like in in a daily routine, it becomes hard to break and you carve and have a withdrawal,

Same can happen with any drug, it's just very easy for some and not for others.

Companies also know once they get someone hooked, they get a regular customer, by putting both nicotine and the marijuana together they can make cigarettes just as addictive as the tobacco counterparts.

Wanna bet? It's nothing but mind over matter, i smoked weed for what a half of a year i cant remember but i quit no withdrawal or nothing now explain that  

Posted by Pimpsy G.

umm why are they two different things in this topic? They both fall under the same exact category and they both rely on the same concepts regarding government regulation. Even gun regulation is a similar concept. I don't see why people think the government regulating everything from the public's use fixes social problems, health problems, and the like. Its not the drugs that are the hazards in this situation, its the people that are willing to do irresponsible things with them, such as give a child marijuana. Sure, taking the marijuana away from his use, if that was completely possible, would fix that particular problem. But what about alcohol? Or bad parenting? Or childhood obesity? Its not black and white, stuff like this is three dimensional. It entirely depends on the persons behavior and parenting with these things, not what is available to him/her. I still don't get your point at all.

There's a reason why drugs are so involved with social issues, and it's not simple either. The thing is, we can't just legalize everything and blame stupid people for being stupid -- let's face it, a majority of our population don't really make responsible decisions all the time. It only takes one decision to screw up your entire life and possibly other peoples'-- this can apply to anything, I bet you can name a few. I never said it was all black and white - it's because social issues are so dimensional, we can't solve them by solving one aspect. I never said it would completely solve the issue, but it would help brighten up statistics. I don't believe legalizing drugs would solve the issue because people become stupid.

Let's take an average middle school student. This person wouldn't be doing drugs if they didn't have access because, simply, they didn't have access. What if suddenly drugs were so much easier to come by? They wouldn't have to know certain people to get them. They could be top of the class and friends with a lot of reasonable people, but they just walk into any convience store and pick up a few shots/joints/w.e they wanted. Okay, so what if it's one kid? If they don't abuse the drug, then they can be successful, right?

Now picture the same image for millions and millions of kids. People get stupid. I don't see how this is better than drug trafficking. I use kids as examples because adults often pretty much do the same things kids do.

In the end of the day, what the government does affects the people, and what people do affects the economy and social issues, and what affects the economy and social issues affects the government because they gotta deal with it all over again. You have to share some of the responsibility, because neither party can exist without the other.  

I only agree that the drugs like alcohol and tobacco and marijuana should be allowed in certain areas in private, and people cant leave while still under the effect of it, and the towns show have a choice whether or not they have one of those places. The only exception would be the pill form medical marijuana from a certified medical institute, 100% marijuana, only available with a prescription for it for the helping of the treatments of cancer and such.

Posted by Bulldogg Lucero

Wanna bet? It's nothing but mind over matter, i smoked weed for what a half of a year i cant remember but i quit no withdrawal or nothing now explain that

It's funny because one of the negative effects of marijuana is memory loss and you say you can't remember,

As for mind over matter, your mind, really your brain, is the matter. You can get addicted to anything substance or not, the resistance effect still applies to marijuana, the more you use it, the more it takes to get that level of high.

You can get addicted to placebos, sugar pills, they have done tests.  

Posted by Latte

Your argument.

That's a very convoluted political answer you gave there, going off what you said we should probably ban alcohol because it has the same capacity of destruction, and then tobacco as it's also another way people are allowed to make bad decisions.

Also if it's treated like alcohol and tobacco then kids won't be able to go to convenience stores and buy it without being over 18/21. They will still have to resort to the same means that they did to obtain it before.

Marijuana smokers users will be delegated to the same areas as cigarette smokers and so on.

Potheads appear to be their own worst enemies in this debate though.  

This thread needs more citations.  

LONG-TERM EFFECTS
In addition to the possible effects on your brain, smoking marijuana may also be hazardous to your developing lungs. Marijuana smoke contains 50% to 70% more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than tobacco smoke.41

You may have heard people argue that marijuana is a "gateway drug" to harder drug use. Some say this is a myth, others insist it is a fact. The truth is that there is a link. Research shows that the earlier you start using marijuana, the more likely you are to become dependent on it or other types of drugs later in life.42

http://www.abovetheinfluence.com/fac...Fal7Qgod60sAzg  

Posted by Rufus

This thread needs more citations.

It's amazing, you've figured out how to finally stop me from wanting to rant about everything, you just need to make it feel like homework.  

Posted by Latte

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I don't think you're getting my point at all... so with that logic a child, adult, whatever can obtain cigarettes or beer right now and ruin their life. People will allways find ways to be stupid, and the government taking things away simply doesn't do anything. Sure in this situation it's now available at a convienent store but it's still an act of stupidity to purchase something on those lines. It doesn't matter about the availiablility of the product, it's not the product that screws up the person, it's the path that leads them to purchasing the product in the first place that does. I'm not sure how you don't understand that drug trafficking is worse than all of that combined, you really should look up the situation in Mexico. There are entire wars based on the drug trafficking industry in the united states. Thousands of people are dying. All our jails are filling up with people that aren't meant to go there and they are transformed into a hardened, dangerous person. If you really think stopping stupid people from buying drugs really fixes alot of problems, (remember these people have already made bad life decisions that will lead to more bad life decisions) you have another thing coming. This is what I hate about these topics. Everyone thinks its the drug that ruins the person, when it's really the path they take to the drug, this applies to parents unfairly indoctrinating their children into drugs as well.