Maybe it was censoring poor grammar. You should have said "You're" a noob.  

that stuff shuldent be alllowed like ive been asked to do things that i cant even say and nuthing was sensored and ive been called a b*****d,b***h,h**e, and ****** many times plus noob this needs to be kid friendly!  

Posted by Winter

I've played games where words like "sleep", "chill", and "teddy" are censored.. Graal isn't all that bad to be honest.

once i was watching my younger sister play Webkinz and all the chat there is predetermined. the one place you can type your own text, it censors any negative word, even "bad" and "hurt" and any words mispelled.

to people who are new to forums: please... its unnecessary to post on year old threads... stop
...  

Posted by rickclops

Maybe it was censoring poor grammar. You should have said "You're" a noob.

I like this guy.  

Posted by rickclops

Maybe it was censoring poor grammar. You should have said "You're" a noob.

 

Posted by Winter

words like "sleep", "chill", and "teddy" are censored.. Graal isn't all that bad to be honest.

Why? .-.  

afking being censored is really annoying  

Multiple @'s was censored back in early 2010 because players would spammed it all over the Burger Refuge picnic area, making it hard for other players to have conversations. I think it's actually one of the first words/symbols to get censored on iClassic o_o. They should uncensored it though 0:.  

Posted by Dusty

It only needs to do the filtering once, when the chat is received. If you're in populated areas like Graal City you're going to experience lag anyways, so if you're actually interested in playing without performance issues you shouldn't really be in those areas. Loops and the likes are much more expensive.

I know that it would only be calculated once, upon a message being sent. But wouldn't it lag going through all the calculations to determine what to censor in a message? Graal Classic uses one of the most complex language filters I've ever seen in an online game;it doesn't just test if a string contains the words, but also for patterns like hiding the words between punctuation and alternative character(s) formed together to look similar, like |\|00b(except something offensive)

If you're receiving 5 messages a second, say of a length of 50 characters, wouldn't that have a drastic impact on performance?

If you calculate the censor serverside, it would only have to be calculated on the server, and would work for everyone with the censor on the same-you only need to calculate it once per message, so it isn't like walking where its unique for every character and where latency causes issues. You then send one of 2 messages to the player: the censored one, or the uncensored one.

The only thing clientside filtering would do better(efficiently) would be allowing you to censor words you don't like(I can finally censor "YOLO" and "Swag"!)

By having an optional swear filter(turned on by default to avoid angry parents), people wouldn't try to avoid it, and people with it on wouldn't have to deal with obscene words all the time, and those with it off won't have to deal with the strictness or inconveniences caused by it(I can't talk about the game Combat Arms without going to certain measures to avoid the filter, part of it is picked up as a rude word)  

If it's clientside you wouldn't need to do all of those complex filtering algorithms. Clientside means that people can pick and choose if they want stuff filtered. That means people won't need to try to avoid the filter. The reason the current filter is as complex as it is is because it is trying to also catch people avoiding it. No need to avoid it = very, very simply filter check.  

Posted by twilit

once i was watching my younger sister play Webkinz and all the chat there is predetermined. the one place you can type your own text, it censors any negative word, even "bad" and "hurt" and any words mispelled.

to people who are new to forums: please... its unnecessary to post on year old threads... stop
...

i play webkinz and it is very censored but that is because its for kids! graal is for 13 and up!  

Posted by Dusty

If it's clientside you wouldn't need to do all of those complex filtering algorithms. Clientside means that people can pick and choose if they want stuff filtered. That means people won't need to try to avoid the filter. The reason the current filter is as complex as it is is because it is trying to also catch people avoiding it. No need to avoid it = very, very simply filter check.

People might try to avoid it just because
1. They're new and don't know how to turn it off.
2.They want to upset someone so they try to avoid the filter to upset them.  

Posted by Skill

People might try to avoid it just because
1. They're new and don't know how to turn it off.
2.They want to upset someone so they try to avoid the filter to upset them.

Not really, this is very unlikely. How will they know who has their filtering on and who has it off? I have seen quite a few MMO's that employ clientside filtering and the amount of swear evasion I see in the games are almost nil. When you don't SEE your swears get filtered, you no longer have a desire to avoid the filter.

Clientside filtering needs to be transparent. So:
1) It wouldn't filter your own chat, even if you have censoring on. Why? Because YOU'RE the one typing it, so there's no point in filtering your own text. This means even if you have filtering on, you wouldn't be aware if it was filtering it for others or not. This greatly decreases the desire to avoid the filter.
2) There would be absolutely no way to tell if someone else is filtering your chat or not. Along with the first point, filtering becomes a very background thing that only helps those who WANT it to help, and doesn't drop hints to other players who is filtering and who is not, and if even their own chat is being filtered. They don't need to know, as it's about what OTHER players see, not what they see.  

Posted by Dusty

Not really, this is very unlikely. How will they know who has their filtering on and who has it off? I have seen quite a few MMO's that employ clientside filtering and the amount of swear evasion I see in the games are almost nil. When you don't SEE your swears get filtered, you no longer have a desire to avoid the filter.

Clientside filtering needs to be transparent. So:
1) It wouldn't filter your own chat, even if you have censoring on. Why? Because YOU'RE the one typing it, so there's no point in filtering your own text. This means even if you have filtering on, you wouldn't be aware if it was filtering it for others or not. This greatly decreases the desire to avoid the filter.
2) There would be absolutely no way to tell if someone else is filtering your chat or not. Along with the first point, filtering becomes a very background thing that only helps those who WANT it to help, and doesn't drop hints to other players who is filtering and who is not, and if even their own chat is being filtered. They don't need to know, as it's about what OTHER players see, not what they see.

true. But wouldn't doing a simple test to see if the player chat string contains any of the words from a large array of nono words take a large amount of processing power(for mobile) when done at high frequency at places like crowded towns?  

Posted by Skill

true. But wouldn't doing a simple test to see if the player chat string contains any of the words from a large array of nono words take a large amount of processing power(for mobile) when done at high frequency at places like crowded towns?

No, and like I said people shouldn't expect smooth gameplay at places like Graal City anyways. Things like riding the horse through Graal City exerts way more processing power than a filter like this would.