What do you guys think of this?

Tyler · 10-14-2011

This thread relates back to: http://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1160.

I recently stumbled upon a few guilds that seemed pretty mad lol. These guids being called "ANTI SOULSLAYER, ANTI SOULSLAYER II, ANTI SOULSLAYER III, ANTI SOULSLAYER IV". These are just a few of the guilds I've seen going against Soulslayer. I've seen some other one's, but I don't think the names are very appropriate to mention on here lol. Below I've taken a few pictures of the guilds and notice how many members they have. Don't you think he should just remove the site? He's taken guides, customs, and made a lot of Graalians angry. He'd bring a lot less hate on himself if he just removed it don't you think? Here are some the guilds:

MrSimons · 10-15-2011

I think he should do what he wants, also notice how almost everyone who is complaining is wearing a recolor.

Tyler · 10-15-2011

Posted by Mr.$imons

I think he should do what he wants, also notice how almost everyone who is complaining is wearing a recolor.

True that there are people who just recolor complaining, but there are also people who make really good customs that are upset by this as well. Since this is a "sharing" community he won't be forced to remove the site, but I really hope he at least removes the customs section seeing how upset it's making people. Edit: Some of the people in the guilds also may be supporting their friend who made a custom.

Rufus · 10-15-2011

If it wasn't him it'd be someone else's site. It's going to happen either way.

Tyler · 10-15-2011

Posted by Rufus

If it wasn't him it'd be someone else's site. It's going to happen either way.

Possibly. I only know of one other site that took customs reguarly and posted, but you never know.

Imprint · 10-15-2011

Honestly, whats so bad about these guilds? If they continuously pester him he can just block them so their efforts to shut down the sit are pretty much useless. I don't see the big deal about people using your graphics either. So you see someone else with your head, it doesn't matter because the majority of the players that use other's graphics have a short attention span and will probably find a different head soon lol.

MattKan · 10-15-2011

If you're gonna upload something to Graal, you're gonna have to get over the fact that it will be stolen and it will be used without your permission and the management isn't gonna do anything about it.

If you haven't realized that by now, then you need to log onto Graal.

Maikeru · 10-15-2011

Posted by MattKan

If you're gonna upload something to Graal, you're gonna have to get over the fact that it will be stolen and it will be used without your permission and the management isn't gonna do anything about it.

If you haven't realized that by now, then you need to log onto Graal.

Yea... But that is for others to find out by ifile or something instead of slapping them onto your website and claiming them your own... God, even though we can't defend copyright, you admins sure make everything look like its not important at all... Ugh..

Tyler · 10-15-2011

Well I can understand if you're a Graal PC player and don't think much of people using you're customs because you are able to use anything uploaded like on Zodiac. However, everything you upload I've heard is free to do. On here you need to pay for your stuff. You basically work hard on a custom, pay for it, then you see someone else using it. Yes they have to pay too, but if they are rich on gralat packs it's pretty much almost free to them. I know this is a community where people can use you're stuff without getting in trouble, but that's not how a lot of people feel. I just think it's ethical on iClassic to not steal others customs or as it's called "sharing" customs.

Rexx · 10-15-2011

I think this quote can be loosely applied here

Alfred: A long time ago, I was in Burma, my friends and I were working for the local government. They were trying to buy the loyalty of tribal leaders by bribing them with precious stones. But their caravans were being raided in a forest north of Rangoon by a bandit. So we went looking for the stones. But in six months, we never found anyone who traded with him. One day I saw a child playing with a ruby the size of a tangerine. The bandit had been throwing them away.
Bruce Wayne: Then why steal them?
Alfred: Because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

anyways, aside from me being a nerd...the only way the site will be taken down is if "SoulSlayer" finds it within himself to do so
The staff doesnt possess the power or authority to force a site to shutdown.

Higbey · 10-15-2011

If they told him to and threatened to ban him he would take it off the site

comet graal · 10-15-2011

i voted to remove site, and all my heads are made from scratch. i believe that stealing is wrong. if someone were to ask me for something i would give it to them in a flash, if they gave me credit.

Poll Results: Should he remove the site?
40.00%	Yes, remove the site.
45.00%	No, don't remove the site.
15.00%	Remove any stolen parts, but keep the site.
Voters: 20. You may not vote on this poll

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Tyler Dark Desert Fox Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: United States, Ohio Posts: 5,720	What do you guys think of this? This thread relates back to: http://www.graalians.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1160. I recently stumbled upon a few guilds that seemed pretty mad lol. These guids being called "ANTI SOULSLAYER, ANTI SOULSLAYER II, ANTI SOULSLAYER III, ANTI SOULSLAYER IV". These are just a few of the guilds I've seen going against Soulslayer. I've seen some other one's, but I don't think the names are very appropriate to mention on here lol. Below I've taken a few pictures of the guilds and notice how many members they have. Don't you think he should just remove the site? He's taken guides, customs, and made a lot of Graalians angry. He'd bring a lot less hate on himself if he just removed it don't you think? Here are some the guilds: Last edited by Tyler; 10-15-2011 at 02:14 AM.

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MrSimons :) Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: no. Posts: 10,309	I think he should do what he wants, also notice how almost everyone who is complaining is wearing a recolor.

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Rufus Registered rufp4 Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 3,378	If it wasn't him it'd be someone else's site. It's going to happen either way.

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Imprint Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,992	Honestly, whats so bad about these guilds? If they continuously pester him he can just block them so their efforts to shut down the sit are pretty much useless. I don't see the big deal about people using your graphics either. So you see someone else with your head, it doesn't matter because the majority of the players that use other's graphics have a short attention span and will probably find a different head soon lol.

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MattKan the KattMan Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: United States Posts: 4,204	If you're gonna upload something to Graal, you're gonna have to get over the fact that it will be stolen and it will be used without your permission and the management isn't gonna do anything about it. If you haven't realized that by now, then you need to log onto Graal.

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Higbey Not Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Hell Posts: 4,885	If they told him to and threatened to ban him he would take it off the site

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comet graal I beat graal. Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: USA Posts: 227	i voted to remove site, and all my heads are made from scratch. i believe that stealing is wrong. if someone were to ask me for something i would give it to them in a flash, if they gave me credit.