Remove the new ap system

Skill · 12-10-2012

The recently added alignment system has caused nothing but trouble, and does nothing to improve the game.

First off, you punish players for pking. We can't heal from beds/pots anymore, high ap players get invulnerability. We can only kill other pkers now, and we get punished for it. Pking has always been one of the best features on Graal, and it has been slowly removed over time. No-pk zones have slowly been creeping throughout the map, and admins have even banned players without warning for pking others when they're farming in a public area such as the grotto. now the ap system punishes pking. It should be the opposite, we should get rewarded for pking.

Secondly, it's being exploited beyond control. people will get 100 ap, then just block doors, being extra careful not to kill someone to lose their ap.

It's like the game is trying to be turned into a giant social hub where all you do is buy gralat packs and wear hats. It's truly a shame to see such a great game being destroyed.

Rufus · 12-10-2012

Someone needs to actually read the news before projecting his uninformed views onto everyone else.

Higbey · 12-10-2012

1 saints are not invulnerable, projectiles and bombs kill them
2 saints do not block
3 saints lose ap as soon as they hit someone (not really true, as saint George was a total asshole and killed a poor dragon that was just eating to survive)
4 with the ap system rufus thinks the graal city can be made pk again
5 ive tried, its basically impossible without boosting or crowd killing to obtain black because the ap only decreases, not damage, meaning you can get 100 people down to .5 but if you dont do the killing blow it doesnt count....
6 although i disagree about the lack of healing, i understand its in place for laming, and i hope it may be made less negative or atleast give players with negative ap a speed boost.
7 you are wrong

Zazzi* · 12-10-2012

Am I the only one who doesn't care about the healing? Like I never really like used a health pot when I needed it I would rather get killed then look for one in the area. Also with beds I hate just waiting to get healed.

Higbey · 12-10-2012

i never payed for food or used it, other than the brew and cookies, but i did that for effects.

i did use pots and feel the restriction on those is a bit harsh, id be okay if it only filled half a heart instead of a whole one...

Psycher! · 12-10-2012

A possible improvement would be to give PKers some sort of positive effect. And stores for each alignment.

Remorse · 12-10-2012

no.

Blueh · 12-10-2012

Sainthood takes forever. At this rate you might as well stick with being a baddy. Plus, new hearts will be added in quests so there's what you do for your PK problems.

MrSimons · 12-10-2012

I actually really like that pkers can't heal, I think it is pretty cheap to heal while pking.

Infernus Lapse · 12-10-2012

I like the ap system actually. You can afk in church while talking, then you can leave. The only problem with this is people will abuse arrow spam and bomb saints a TON.

Yami · 12-10-2012

becoming a saint isn't an easy task,

on top of this, if you are a PKer that needs to heal because your so scared of having your little avatar spin get dizzy and fall down. than go kill yourself...

litterily go blow yourself up, you die, respawn with full hearts, and don't die by your opponents hand. so yes you can still get full hearts. although i feel its very cheap to do so,
please stop complaining about the AP system being brought to iClassic. I feel its a nice touch, and makes me feel all nostalgic.

PKing isn't being punished, if you aren't a little p**sy then you should have no problem with the new update, and if you look around...

people are pking all over the place. it hasn't stopped anyone i know that PKs.

*finished off the ranting with a question*

Q: by blocking, does this mean we can run threw others/not block doors? or does this mean we can not block arrows with our shields?

Kendama · 12-10-2012

Question for you folks,
Wasn't using the shield to block arrows removed a while ago? because now im finding myself blocking them, and i have low AP now. Is that an advantage of low AP? Seems fair if low AP can block arrows, but cant heal. Vise verse

Blueh · 12-10-2012

You could always block arrows if you were facing them.

Kendama · 12-10-2012

From what i remember they took that away for some time because it was considered unfair.?

Higbey · 12-10-2012

Posted by Kendama

From what i remember they took that away for some time because it was considered unfair.?

Nope. It's always been that way

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Skill The Unwanted Critic Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 3,639	Remove the new ap system The recently added alignment system has caused nothing but trouble, and does nothing to improve the game. First off, you punish players for pking. We can't heal from beds/pots anymore, high ap players get invulnerability. We can only kill other pkers now, and we get punished for it. Pking has always been one of the best features on Graal, and it has been slowly removed over time. No-pk zones have slowly been creeping throughout the map, and admins have even banned players without warning for pking others when they're farming in a public area such as the grotto. now the ap system punishes pking. It should be the opposite, we should get rewarded for pking. Secondly, it's being exploited beyond control. people will get 100 ap, then just block doors, being extra careful not to kill someone to lose their ap. It's like the game is trying to be turned into a giant social hub where all you do is buy gralat packs and wear hats. It's truly a shame to see such a great game being destroyed.

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Rufus Registered rufp4 Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 3,378	Someone needs to actually read the news before projecting his uninformed views onto everyone else.

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Higbey Not Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Hell Posts: 4,885	1 saints are not invulnerable, projectiles and bombs kill them 2 saints do not block 3 saints lose ap as soon as they hit someone (not really true, as saint George was a total asshole and killed a poor dragon that was just eating to survive) 4 with the ap system rufus thinks the graal city can be made pk again 5 ive tried, its basically impossible without boosting or crowd killing to obtain black because the ap only decreases, not damage, meaning you can get 100 people down to .5 but if you dont do the killing blow it doesnt count.... 6 although i disagree about the lack of healing, i understand its in place for laming, and i hope it may be made less negative or atleast give players with negative ap a speed boost. 7 you are wrong

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Zazzi* 👑 Delteria GM Manager Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Kaljun Posts: 1,213	Am I the only one who doesn't care about the healing? Like I never really like used a health pot when I needed it I would rather get killed then look for one in the area. Also with beds I hate just waiting to get healed.

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Psycher! The Overlord Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: I have no idea Posts: 1,240	A possible improvement would be to give PKers some sort of positive effect. And stores for each alignment.

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Remorse Who knows? Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: California Posts: 1,716	no.

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Blueh The Orator Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Yes Posts: 3,307	Sainthood takes forever. At this rate you might as well stick with being a baddy. Plus, new hearts will be added in quests so there's what you do for your PK problems.

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MrSimons :) Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: no. Posts: 10,309	I actually really like that pkers can't heal, I think it is pretty cheap to heal while pking.

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Infernus Lapse Writer of Stories Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: The Danger Zone Posts: 2,207	I like the ap system actually. You can afk in church while talking, then you can leave. The only problem with this is people will abuse arrow spam and bomb saints a TON.

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Yami Alumni Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Babord Police Department Posts: 739	becoming a saint isn't an easy task, on top of this, if you are a PKer that needs to heal because your so scared of having your little avatar spin get dizzy and fall down. than go kill yourself... litterily go blow yourself up, you die, respawn with full hearts, and don't die by your opponents hand. so yes you can still get full hearts. although i feel its very cheap to do so, please stop complaining about the AP system being brought to iClassic. I feel its a nice touch, and makes me feel all nostalgic. PKing isn't being punished, if you aren't a little p*sy then you should have no problem with the new update, and if you look around... people are pking all over the place. it hasn't stopped anyone i know that PKs. finished off the ranting with a question* Q: by blocking, does this mean we can run threw others/not block doors? or does this mean we can not block arrows with our shields?

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Kendama Delteria Manager Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: USA Posts: 2,474	Question for you folks, Wasn't using the shield to block arrows removed a while ago? because now im finding myself blocking them, and i have low AP now. Is that an advantage of low AP? Seems fair if low AP can block arrows, but cant heal. Vise verse