the castle is an exact rip dusty lol  

Posted by Rexx

Swamp Town, Swamp Town entrance cliffs, Mountains in the northwest, North Graal City, and Castle is just shifted diagonally. Even though we can't fully see it on the Classic map but you can already see the cliffs in the Southwest. The bridges and waterfalls also look very similar.

We all already know Graal is a Zelda rip-off so this shouldn't really surprise anyone..

Ya, Graal was a rip of Zelda. There's a lot of similar stuff, mostly in the gameplay... but in this instance I just don't see it. There ARE no mountains in the Northwest of LttP, because in LttP that's the Lost Woods. Again, In the Southwest there is a desert in LttP and in Graal that's Babord, even if it's not accessible(it's essentially a warehouse district). In Zelda the castle being in the center is a central design as the castle was a very important plot location. In Graal, Graal City itself takes this place in the center, and rightly so as it's the central and most active part of the world.

Posted by Jester Lapse

the castle is an exact rip dusty lol

"Exact rip" ... sure. Castles surrounded by waters are not an original concept http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moat


I mean I'm not trying to argue to defend Graal or something, I've openly stated the similarities/history of Graal many times. Just this instance makes no sense to me and it's pretty much grasping at very short straws. Especially if you've played both Classic and LttP(which I have played plenty of both), the differences become really obvious. Zelda is a well-thought out and compressed world where everything is where it is for a specific reason. Graal is an overworld where **** is where it is because some player in 1999 submitted it and it got approved.  

Graal's not.... square....  

Posted by Rexx

*knew

**** my life  

Graal classic IS a Zelda clone, hands down.

Way back in the late 90s Stefan made a flash game (among others for a game website he was a part of) called "Zelda Online."

It was literally a basic clone of Zelda 3, minus most of aLTTP's "features." Basically it was the world of Zelda 3 minus quests and other weapons but online (funny how Graal classic currently reverted to something quite similar.)

The map was the same as Zelda 3 and so were the sprites. Of course Nintendo sent him a C&D so, things were changed to what we now call Graal. So of course there are similarities, and in the old days there were still a loooottt of leftover sprites from zelda and other games.


That's not really a bad thing. Zelda 3 is a legendary game. There's nothing wrong from taking inspiration from great games, most (if not practically all) good games have taken inspiration from past games. Graal is an online Zelda 3 inspired game, and I personally think that's great.

You can probably still find the old Zelda rip level files. They were in .zelda format even (which load up fine in the later versions of graal that use .graal files. I don't know if the pc version still uses them and has offline play since I haven't touched it in around a decade.)

Actually, I'm pretty sure I have them lying around on a cd-r somewhere. If not a copy of zelda online itself.  

This guy surprisingly seems like he knows what hes talking about for being his first post. Welcome to Graalians  

I don't think they ripped it, but just copied the design. They do look very similar.  

Graa looks like Zelda a link to the past?

YOU DONT SAY  

Posted by Danixfun

Graa looks like Zelda a link to the past?

YOU DONT SAY

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