New Updates/Features..Useless "admins" - 2

Lanky · 10-26-2011

im just guessing, but maybe they dont have many creative, possible ideas for updates?

comet graal · 10-26-2011

Posted by Lanky

im just guessing, but maybe they dont have many creative, possible ideas for updates?

I have many creative, possible ideas for updates ._. and azrael, NYN, furry(etc.) do too. The dark side of the garden just got released.

Rexx · 10-26-2011

Posted by Lanky

im just guessing, but maybe they dont have many creative, possible ideas for updates?

Lanky say it ain't so

I've seen some good ideas from players on this site :/

Yephenpeace · 10-27-2011

And odds are the good ones have been put into consideration. No one like's hearing impatient people complain about a game, if you think it's so easy to make updates, make your own game!

NYN · 10-27-2011

Posted by Rexx

did you even read my post?

Nyn and Azrael I understand you and the others have lives but that wasnt stopping you before from releasing updates, what happened?

Az has been creating levels for a long time so he's actually pretty fast at it. I don't need to speak for him but it's astonishing how much leveling he does all while juggling college, work, and his social life. Be grateful. If we didn't have him we wouldn't have ANY level updates. He makes an entire city and everyone just wants MORE MORE MORE for their $5... Give me a break lol.

Why don't ya help us out by submitting your levels? Maybe you can dedicate time to creating stuff for the server. Seriously WE ARE VERY OPEN TO PEOPLE WHO CAN HELP CREATE LEVELS AND GRAPHICS IF THEY ARE TALENTED AND MATURE! (Believe it or not it's been harder for players to be mature...)

Oh and as for me... I was never really responsible for any real update except:

Magic Shop (with the help of GFX department)
Dragon's only shop (again, with the help of GFX department)
Spring Break themed Nexus

I just don't have time to practice making levels. Usually in the winter I don't work as much but I just learned I'll be working full time until March so... NOTHING FROM ME. Stefan does the most updates and the dude is working on like 10 other games and deals with so much stuff I'm surprised he has any time to visit us.

Rexx · 10-27-2011

Posted by NYN

Az has been creating levels for a long time so he's actually pretty fast at it. I don't need to speak for him but it's astonishing how much leveling he does all while juggling college, work, and his social life. Be grateful. If we didn't have him we wouldn't have ANY level updates. He makes an entire city and everyone just wants MORE MORE MORE for their $5... Give me a break lol.

Why don't ya help us out by submitting your levels? Maybe you can dedicate time to creating stuff for the server. Seriously WE ARE VERY OPEN TO PEOPLE WHO CAN HELP CREATE LEVELS AND GRAPHICS IF THEY ARE TALENTED AND MATURE! (Believe it or not it's been harder for players to be mature...)

Oh and as for me... I was never really responsible for any real update except:

Magic Shop (with the help of GFX department)
Dragon's only shop (again, with the help of GFX department)
Spring Break themed Nexus

I just don't have time to practice making levels. Usually in the winter I don't work as much but I just learned I'll be working full time until March so... NOTHING FROM ME. Stefan does the most updates and the dude is working on like 10 other games and deals with so much stuff I'm surprised he has any time to visit us.

So is that an open invitation for people to share their stuff or a counter statement?

If you really do mean that I'd like nothing more than to create stuff and help out but it seems more conceptual than anything :/
I've seen other people make tons of levels and stuff mostly shared on facebook, but I never see them commented on or responded to.
Maybe there is a reason for that but its just what I've seen in the past.

There's an untapped section of the community who want to contribute but feel like they cant for some reason

PS: I already do some minor graphics in Triggers graphics guild..

Maikeru · 10-27-2011

did you even read my post?
I didn't even say anything about the admins or stefan being money hungry
Good job looking like a major suck up

First of all, stop trying to end every compliment with a poor insult. It lowers your reputation kid...

Second, they released a quest. Be thankful that the reward is 3 hats for completing the quest 3 times and not another wasted item like holiday tokens

RPS is indeed a good update because it gives players something to do other than running around slashing endlessly and talking to random strangers on Graal Classic

VIP is also indeed another update. Please take notice that soon they're going to use VIP for more expanded deals exclusive to those who purchased it: Exclusive places/shops/items/etc.

This is just the beginning of the VIP. Im sure they're gonna use it for more than just item-gathering

As FurryAmigo said, Personal Uploads is also another good update. Its better than having to buy recolored heads for 8000 gralats (which now is dumb that they're [the players] recoloring heads and purchasing it for 20000 gralats)

Again, its not your taste but it does well suit players in other ways. Keep looking for an update that could make you happy but until then, there are some other players that feel satisfied with this.

And if you think im a major suck up, please turn your head to the hundreds of other players that play Graal Classic and pay for these updates. Say the same thing to them aswell... I dare you..

Pazx · 10-27-2011

Posted by Maikeru

Second, they released a quest. Be thankful that the reward is 3 hats for completing the quest 3 times and not another wasted item like holiday tokens

Quest? Lets run through a cave and skip through an NPC's text three times

Yaaaay hat pl0x best quest everrrr

Maikeru · 10-27-2011

Posted by Pazx

Quest? Lets run through a cave and skip through an NPC's text three times

Yaaaay hat pl0x best quest everrrr

Its a quest if you took the time to actually see the clues rather than following quest volunteers...
And its very interesting if you took the time to see the details for yourself rather than skipping to the cave...

NCJohn · 10-27-2011

Posted by Rexx

edit- These are just my own personal views, I'm not trying to convince or persuade anyone to believe the same as I do.

Okay so ever since I started playing Graal in early 2010 there had been constant updates and added features until around the time the railroad was released..the same time Lollipop was fired/quit for an approximate time frame (unrelated to the updates btw)

Some of these are ones I remember the most:
Houses
Guild Sparring
Balamb (Honor Points)
Snowtown- major hype
Revolution
Guild Houses
Body shop (remember when we all used defaults?)
Horses
Deadwood
Railroad parts being sold as a furniture item

After the railroad I am at a loss of words, nothing notable has been released. I had taken a few month-long breaks so I'm sorry if I did miss something.. But when I came back around late August nothing noticeable had changed...

VIP is hardly an update, it contributes nothing at all to the game itself.

RPS is OK, its not an unwelcome update but I can only describe it as a "meh" update.

All of the past updates have been spaced out just enough to barely hold over til the next update or new big thing.

I haven't seen anything new or exciting in a long ass time.
I've lost faith in the hope of seeing anything exciting or refreshing..

just for good measure: REFRESHING

I'll just say it's sad that we need to wait for a holiday to come around to see new stuff in the game...I like the old days where random things would be added, it was a nice little surprise every time.

If this is the extent of the updates we will ever have again Graal has reached its peak, if it hasn't already passed...
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So about the extensive list of admins we now have...

Believe it or not we over 30+ "Graal Police" now who also serve as "Uploaders" ..and that's not including the "graphics" admins and other staff

I remember when I could count all the admins on one hand.

Really, why are GPs still being hired...the Graal population's rate of growth is definitely not in line with the rate at which these new admins are being hired.
Are they being hired because they deserve it? If its all based on good behavior and merit that is complete BS.

Maybe the focus should be shifted over to hiring people who can actually contribute to the game instead of aimlessly warping around graal looking for people to ban.

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PS: I dont hate Graal, I am just disappointed in the lack of progress in the game..

If consistent updates is what you are looking for then just go play iEra. Even though classic doesn't have updates as consistently it still has good updates that the staff put a lot of time and effort in to.

Lykke · 10-27-2011

I would personally love to see some people try their hand at LAT.

IT IS MUCH HARDER THAN IT LOOKS!
(especially if you are going to create something worth while and detailed enough to use in game)

If there were some players out there who had some serious skill in the LAT department and were mature and avaliable, there could be opportunities for you.

Graal is esentially a gateway for players looking to expand their skills, whether it be in gfx, levels, or scripting. And in order to become really good, you need to PRACTICE!

Perhaps you should check these opportunities out instead of sitting around and waiting for the next update to be created for you.

Maikeru · 10-27-2011

Posted by Lykke

I would personally love to see some people try their hand at LAT.

IT IS MUCH HARDER THAN IT LOOKS!
(especially if you are going to create something worth while and detailed enough to use in game)

If there were some players out there who had some serious skill in the LAT department and were mature and avaliable, there could be opportunities for you.

Graal is esentially a gateway for players looking to expand their skills, whether it be in gfx, levels, or scripting. And in order to become really good, you need to PRACTICE!

Perhaps you should check these opportunities out instead of sitting around and waiting for the next update to be created for you.

LAT? Whats that? and Where can i study the LAT?

Yephenpeace · 10-27-2011

LAT stands for Level Administration Team, or something like that haha, but it's level developing.

Lykke · 10-27-2011

LAT- developer of levels

If you are seriously interested in trying to develop graal levels, you can find more information and download GRAAL PC here: http://www.graalonline.com/playerwor...?page=Creation

There is a program called "Level Editor" which gives you the tools in a drag-and-drop format to create levels, and even learn some scripting.

Yephenpeace · 10-27-2011

I'm pretty terrible at LAT

. I've made two levels and my indoor one is the only decent looking one. Lol, I can't make cliffs at all.

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Lanky dude Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 35	im just guessing, but maybe they dont have many creative, possible ideas for updates?

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Yephenpeace Love to all Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 1,406	And odds are the good ones have been put into consideration. No one like's hearing impatient people complain about a game, if you think it's so easy to make updates, make your own game!

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Lykke Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 20	I would personally love to see some people try their hand at LAT. IT IS MUCH HARDER THAN IT LOOKS! (especially if you are going to create something worth while and detailed enough to use in game) If there were some players out there who had some serious skill in the LAT department and were mature and avaliable, there could be opportunities for you. Graal is esentially a gateway for players looking to expand their skills, whether it be in gfx, levels, or scripting. And in order to become really good, you need to PRACTICE! Perhaps you should check these opportunities out instead of sitting around and waiting for the next update to be created for you.

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Yephenpeace Love to all Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 1,406	I'm pretty terrible at LAT . I've made two levels and my indoor one is the only decent looking one. Lol, I can't make cliffs at all.